$Freeroll NLHE MTT: Hand 27s vs AK

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I liked the way I played this hand, would you like to know what you think? The villain of UTG AK's mini raise I completed from small. I think I played well. if anyone wants to give an opinion ...


(I don't know why the shzow dawn isn't show ingbut the villain had AK)


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UTG: 19,708 (49 bb)
UTG+1: 3,060 (8 bb)
MP: 15,510 (39 bb)
MP+1: 4,120 (10 bb)
LP: 6,161 (15 bb)
CO: 14,242 (36 bb)
BU: 10,000 (25 bb)
SB: 9,420 (24 bb)
BB (Hero): 32,664 (82 bb)

Pre-Flop: (960) Hero is BB with 2 7
UTG raises to 800, 4 players fold, CO calls 800, 2 players fold, Hero calls 400

Flop: (2,960) Q A 7 (3 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets 1,080, CO folds, Hero calls 1,080

Turn: (5,120) 2 (2 players)
Hero bets 2,816, UTG calls 2,816

River: (10,752) 8 (2 players)
Hero bets 8,064, UTG raises to 14,972 (all-in), Hero calls 6,908
 
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I agree with the call pre-flop, it's a min raise and you have the big blind, 82 BB stack, suited cards, no brainer. I also agree with the call on the flop since you have some outs.

On the other hand, I would've just check called turn and river with bottom two pair. AA, QQ and AQ are very much in the standard range for a raise from UTG, as are pocket sevens even though you are blocking that hand. Plus the diamond on the river makes a flush. There's just too many possible hands that have you beat here, and while two pair is good a fair portion of the time, I'm much more comfortable check calling for pot control.
 
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Post flop looks good. Personally I'd be check-raising the turn. But your line is also fine.
Preflop....why did you call with 27s?? :pppp
I think you got lucky, 27s is never a call preflop. Though you were getting a great price so I guess it's fair enough.
Also Villain is insane for raising river.
But yea, given the situation, I think you played it well :)
 
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Defending multiway here for 1bb is fine - the flop bet is small enough for us to call with bottom pair and backdoor flush draw - i would fold to this bet without a club on board just because its so hard to pickup equity without one.

One we hit our two pair I would also look to check/raise into the aggressor who should continue value betting Ax. I am never folding river. Villan will have to show me a better hand in a freeroll. Soooo many players over valuing single pair holdings these days - in a freeroll im just not folding two pair very often and this is not the board for it.

So in conclusion I think the hand is fine aside from leading turn, you will get villans to fold out alot of non Ax hands by leading turn - where when we x/raise them - if they are bluffing we get that additional street of value before they fold.
 
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I think check/call turn and river would be better. There is know reason to think two smallest pairs is good with this much aggression. Too many hands you are behind.
 
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I think check/call turn and river would be better. There is know reason to think two smallest pairs is good with this much aggression. Too many hands you are behind.



An example was this hand here at 3.30, thankfully I was lucky on the river



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vividinAK (UTG): 19,880 (83 bb)
mixfeelings (UTG+1): 20,997 (87 bb)
habsrule1250 (MP): 7,225 (30 bb)
l youl0se l (MP+1): 35,567 (148 bb)
joshuaesteban (CO): 20,000 (83 bb)
Crawdaddy_KY (BU): 46,572 (194 bb)
belowtheradar1 (SB): 17,741 (74 bb)
1MilhaoSemNada (BB): 35,589 (148 bb)

Pre-Flop: (600) Hero (1MilhaoSemNada) is BB with 2 5
4 players fold, joshuaesteban (CO) raises to 504, Crawdaddy_KY (BU) calls 504, 1 fold, 1MilhaoSemNada (BB) calls 264

Flop: (1,872) 2 K 5 (3 players)
1MilhaoSemNada (BB) bets 1,404, joshuaesteban (CO) raises to 3,978, Crawdaddy_KY (BU) folds, 1MilhaoSemNada (BB) raises to 7,979, joshuaesteban (CO) raises to 19,466 (all-in), 1MilhaoSemNada (BB) calls 11,487

Turn: (40,804) A (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: (40,804) 2 (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: 40,804

Showdown:
joshuaesteban (CO) shows K A (two pair, Aces and Kings)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 62%, Flop: 27%, Turn: 91%, River: 0%)

1MilhaoSemNada (BB) shows 2 5 (a full house, Twos full of Fives)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 38%, Flop: 73%, Turn: 9%, River: 100%)

1MilhaoSemNada (BB) wins 40,804
 
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Very well placed ladies and gentlemen
 
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An example was this hand here at 3.30, thankfully I was lucky on the river



Winning Poker, Hold'em No Limit - 120/240 (30 ante) - 8 players
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vividinAK (UTG): 19,880 (83 bb)
mixfeelings (UTG+1): 20,997 (87 bb)
habsrule1250 (MP): 7,225 (30 bb)
l youl0se l (MP+1): 35,567 (148 bb)
joshuaesteban (CO): 20,000 (83 bb)
Crawdaddy_KY (BU): 46,572 (194 bb)
belowtheradar1 (SB): 17,741 (74 bb)
1MilhaoSemNada (BB): 35,589 (148 bb)

Pre-Flop: (600) Hero (1MilhaoSemNada) is BB with 2 5
4 players fold, joshuaesteban (CO) raises to 504, Crawdaddy_KY (BU) calls 504, 1 fold, 1MilhaoSemNada (BB) calls 264

Flop: (1,872) 2 K 5 (3 players)
1MilhaoSemNada (BB) bets 1,404, joshuaesteban (CO) raises to 3,978, Crawdaddy_KY (BU) folds, 1MilhaoSemNada (BB) raises to 7,979, joshuaesteban (CO) raises to 19,466 (all-in), 1MilhaoSemNada (BB) calls 11,487

Turn: (40,804) A (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: (40,804) 2 (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: 40,804

Showdown:
joshuaesteban (CO) shows K A (two pair, Aces and Kings)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 62%, Flop: 27%, Turn: 91%, River: 0%)

1MilhaoSemNada (BB) shows 2 5 (a full house, Twos full of Fives)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 38%, Flop: 73%, Turn: 9%, River: 100%)

1MilhaoSemNada (BB) wins 40,804
The difference is in the second example, there are few hands you are behind. He doesn't raise with K2 or K5, so only KK and the unlikely 22 and 55 beat you when you shove.

In the first example, AA, QQ, AQ, A2s, A7s, A8s, Ax of diamond, and the unlikely 22, 77, and 88 all have you beat. That's a lot of combinations. I would check/call it down.
 
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Preflop
I would just fold. We might be getting the right pot odds based on raw equity, but bad hands out of position have a lot of reverse implied odds, so raw equity is only half the story. Also its a common misconception, that we should defend more frequently in multiway pots. Its actually the other way around. We should defend less frequently, and if we defend 72s, what are we even not defending apart from the worst offsuit junk?

Flop
This is why, I dont like defending 72s. We flopped a pair, and it feels to weak-tight to check-fold. But against his value range we have 5 outs at most, and we are not drawing to the nuts. Still I guess, this is a crying call, if we decided to see a flop.

Turn
You improved to 2 pair, but I would still be in check-call mode. Its not a scary card to him, so I think, you get more value by checking and allowing him to bet again. It makes no difference against a hand like AK, but if he has a bluff, he is just going to fold it, so you make it easy for him to play well. I am also not super thrilled about the prospect of getting raised and having to play for stacks, since you still lose to all the better two pair and sets. You turned a good hand but not exactly the nuts.

River
As played you can either check or bet small, and if you bet small, I would fold to a jam. I think, you got very lucky, that he had AK and overplayed it. But this is not a common outcome, and certainly not against better players than those, you might find in a freeroll. The general tendency in the micros is, that a raise on the river, when bets went in on every previous street, is always the nuts. Of course there are exceptions, and this hand was such an exception, but you are sharing the hand to learn, and long time this bet-call will lose you a lot of chips.
 
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Fold preflop.
You are OOP.
72o is trash.
You have no initiative.
You liked the way you played this hand because you won.
Survivorship bias
 
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Preflop
I would just fold. We might be getting the right pot odds based on raw equity, but bad hands out of position have a lot of reverse implied odds, so raw equity is only half the story. Also its a common misconception, that we should defend more frequently in multiway pots. Its actually the other way around. We should defend less frequently, and if we defend 72s, what are we even not defending apart from the worst offsuit junk?

Flop
This is why, I dont like defending 72s. We flopped a pair, and it feels to weak-tight to check-fold. But against his value range we have 5 outs at most, and we are not drawing to the nuts. Still I guess, this is a crying call, if we decided to see a flop.

Turn
You improved to 2 pair, but I would still be in check-call mode. Its not a scary card to him, so I think, you get more value by checking and allowing him to bet again. It makes no difference against a hand like AK, but if he has a bluff, he is just going to fold it, so you make it easy for him to play well. I am also not super thrilled about the prospect of getting raised and having to play for stacks, since you still lose to all the better two pair and sets. You turned a good hand but not exactly the nuts.

River
As played you can either check or bet small, and if you bet small, I would fold to a jam. I think, you got very lucky, that he had AK and overplayed it. But this is not a common outcome, and certainly not against better players than those, you might find in a freeroll. The general tendency in the micros is, that a raise on the river, when bets went in on every previous street, is always the nuts. Of course there are exceptions, and this hand was such an exception, but you are sharing the hand to learn, and long time this bet-call will lose you a lot of chips.

yes it is true, I agree with the prospect of a low bet to draw more bluffs, control the pot and everything.
But who says you need to be nuts to be ahead, or win the hand? We will be very few times nuts.
 
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I liked the way I played this hand, would you like to know what you think? The villain of UTG AK's mini raise I completed from small. I think I played well. if anyone wants to give an opinion ...


(I don't know why the shzow dawn isn't show ingbut the villain had AK)


Winning Poker, Hold'em No Limit - 200/400 (40 ante) - 9 players
Replay this hand on CardsChat

UTG: 19,708 (49 bb)
UTG+1: 3,060 (8 bb)
MP: 15,510 (39 bb)
MP+1: 4,120 (10 bb)
LP: 6,161 (15 bb)
CO: 14,242 (36 bb)
BU: 10,000 (25 bb)
SB: 9,420 (24 bb)
BB (Hero): 32,664 (82 bb)

Pre-Flop: (960) Hero is BB with 2 7
UTG raises to 800, 4 players fold, CO calls 800, 2 players fold, Hero calls 400

Flop: (2,960) Q A 7 (3 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets 1,080, CO folds, Hero calls 1,080

Turn: (5,120) 2 (2 players)
Hero bets 2,816, UTG calls 2,816

River: (10,752) 8 (2 players)
Hero bets 8,064, UTG raises to 14,972 (all-in), Hero calls 6,908



Hello,


I do like the way you played it. Calling the c-bet with 3rd pair and some back doors is correct. People fold too quickly in these spots usually. Good job getting the maximum
 
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