$Freeroll NLHE MTT Deep Stacked: $Freeroll NLHE : Could i have ever imagined this outcome?

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$Freeroll NLHE MTT Deep Stacked: $Freeroll NLHE : Could i have ever imagined this outcome?

9-max Seat #9 is the button
Seat 1: KASPERRR (1180 in chips)
Seat 2: c89184056013 (35085 in chips)
Seat 3: kut3boy (39960 in chips)
Seat 4: KCGomers1 (4175 in chips)
Seat 5: POKERA552 (6340 in chips)
Seat 6: barracuda.ec (9775 in chips)
Seat 7: papaguns69 (26390 in chips)
Seat 8: agafa ekb (4219 in chips)
Seat 9: mdm206 (21152 in chips)
everyone posts ante
KASPERRR: posts small blind 250
c89184056013: posts big blind 500
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to mdm206 [Kd 9c]
kut3boy: folds
KCGomers1: folds
POKERA552: folds
barracuda.ec: folds
papaguns69: calls 500
agafa ekb: folds
mdm206: calls 500
KASPERRR: folds
c89184056013: checks

*** FLOP *** [7c 9d 5c]
c89184056013: bets 500
papaguns69: calls 500
mdm206: raises 1000 to 1500
c89184056013: raises 1000 to 2500
papaguns69: calls 2000
mdm206: calls 1000
*** TURN *** [7c 9d 5c] 9♠
c89184056013: checks
papaguns69: checks
mdm206: bets 2000
c89184056013: calls 2000
papaguns69: calls 2000
*** RIVER *** [7c 9d 5c 9s] 2♠
c89184056013: checks
papaguns69: checks
mdm206: bets 3500
c89184056013: calls 3500
papaguns69: folds
*** SHOW DOWN ***
mdm206: shows [Kd 9c] (three of a kind, Nines)
c89184056013: shows [9h 5s] (a full house, Nines full of Fives)
c89184056013 collected 22700 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 22700 | Rake 0
Board [7c 9d 5c 9s 2s]
Seat 2: c89184056013 (big blind) showed [9h 5s] and won (22700) with a full house, Nines full of Fives
Seat 7: papaguns69 folded on the River
Seat 9: mdm206 (button) showed [Kd 9c] and lost with three of a kind, Nines

So i limped in on the button because there weren't many callers.

I put in a value bet thinking i had top pair and a big overcard. I didn't 3 bet and just called because i wanted to see the turn ( i was afraid of a straight with someone having 6 8, or a clubs flush)

Seeing the 2 checks i thought no one had improved and bet the turn. ( one guy i could steal pots off of due to successful value betting when i had the nuts and he would back down if i pressed well enough, 2nd guy i saw win a pot with a hand like a7o UTG)

On the river i though i would make a value bet(1/3 of the pot). I was surprisingly called and got beat by a full house vs a set.

Where did i go wrong? Where should i have thought "okay, i need to recheck the situation"?

The villain didn't slowplay me(thought of that). Based on his bet i went on playing real tight and i trapped him later on and eliminated him from the tournament. He was a LAG i guess.

So where did i go wrong? Bad beat or my fault? Should i have checked?
 
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Ok where to start?

First of all the idea that you limped behind because there weren't many players that limped before is flawed thinking IMO. hands that I limp behind with are hands I want as many players in as possible because I am looking to hit hard. I mean HARD no just TPGK. You are on the button but with K9o I am leaning towards a fold but I don't think it is completely terrible.

The flop I think is where you definitely should be getting away from this hand. Once you have been 3 bet and called there are just too many hands that have you crushed.

As for could you ever see this happening? Yes The flop raiser just checked pf so his range is literally anything so he could have easily flopped 2 pair on that board.

Once the turn hits it would be very difficult to get away.

On a side note: Why is villain flatting the river?
 
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Playing tight i usually go for these plays:

Early: 22 to AA, AK,AQ,AJ,KQ
Middle: same +suited connectors
Late: same as early + suited connectors from 6,7 to KJ and suited aces A7+

I limped to see the flop and maybe steal the blinds. I don't ever break from that plan so i just thought i'd try. K9 didnt seem thaaat bad(the "If it's not good enough to raise,it's not good enough to call" rule should have been applied, so it is my bad).
I was so afraid of straight and flush that the possibility of a 2 pair and a full house didn't even occur to me.

The reason why he flat called river was the 7 imo. Being afraid of losing to a higher full house was what scared him off betting.

As i said eventually i went on to bust him and furthermore i placed on the money in a really big tournament 8000 players(won crap,but that's another discussion :) ).
 
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Here is my $0.02

K-9 offsuit. Even on the button, it's a crappy hand. I would have folded without thinking twice.

If you are going to enter the pot (especially on the button) don't limp. Raise. If you would have raised 3 or 4x it is likely the BB would have folded, and that was the only hand that beats you.

Three bet on the flop should have been the info you needed to release the hand.

Fold garbage hands. They will cost you money.

It was a freeroll, and freerolls are almost not even poker. However, it could have gone better if you folded or raised preflop.

Just my opinion, take it with a grain of salt.
 
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Playing tight i usually go for these plays:

Early: 22 to AA, AK,AQ,AJ,KQ
Middle: same +suited connectors
Late: same as early + suited connectors from 6,7 to KJ and suited aces A7+

I limped to see the flop and maybe steal the blinds. I don't ever break from that plan so i just thought i'd try. K9 didnt seem thaaat bad(the "If it's not good enough to raise,it's not good enough to call" rule should have been applied, so it is my bad).
I was so afraid of straight and flush that the possibility of a 2 pair and a full house didn't even occur to me.

The reason why he flat called river was the 7 imo. Being afraid of losing to a higher full house was what scared him off betting.

As i said eventually i went on to bust him and furthermore i placed on the money in a really big tournament 8000 players(won crap,but that's another discussion :) ).


well obviously he was worried about 97 because that is the only hand that has him beat. I am saying definitely bet there with the second nuts 100%.
 
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its a freeroll, why are any of you expecting non-retarded play? (aimed at everyone)

fold K9o pre.. fold to the flop 3bet, turn is an obv value bet as played and so is river.

also you cant limp in to steal blinds, thats not how it works.
 
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Yes you are all right. My biggest mistake is not folding preflop
K9 is indeed a crap hand, thought it as a medium when it really wasn't. I'll stick to ABC poker from now on :)
I will make a thread soon with several quesitons regarding blinds stealing and stuff.
Thanks everyone for the input.

First big mistake-not folding, second and worst- not folding to the 3bet.
 
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This or just raise the limper preflop in position (you have button I assume?) and than you will yake it down a high percentage of the time without showdown.
 
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yeah folding is the best thing you can do here, cuz it's a freeroll

If this is a buy-in tournament and you want to play this hand, a raise to 3x the BB + 1x for every limper is a nice strategy to go with on the button
 
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