$Freeroll NLHE MTT: Carbon Poker $200 Freeroll

[FryGuy14]

Blinds are 100/200 and I am in the SB with 2430 in chips (about 450th place overall) and I get delt AdAs. There are 2 callers in front of me and I raise it up to 600 to go pre-flop. Again, 2 callers. Flop comes 5hAc6s. I figure I am way ahead here and check...probably my first mistake. Turn comes Qh and I lead out with 400 and one villain folds and another calls (BTN). The river card is a 2c and I bet 1600 and the villain on the BTN raises over the top all in and I am covered and only had 130 left so I called and he rolls over 43h for the straight. So I guess my question is, what should I have done different/better?

 

[duggs]

shove pre, or flop, or turn, or river.
but seriously shove pre

 

[Worak]

shove pre, or flop, or turn, or river.
but seriously shove pre

With 12bb this is definately shove pre.

 

[Reptar7]

Shove pre. Shove the flop. Bet at least pot on the turn, which would be AI. Fold the river. I guess you played every single street wrong.

 

[baudib1]

I figure I am way ahead here and check...

why

 

[calicard]

I was in the $200 Freeroll. I was dealt AA in the BB. I had 20,000 chips I was in 4th place the chip leader was at my table he had 26,000 chips. He raised in early position he had 2 callers both short stacks. So I decide to Isolate and shove all in knowing the 2 short stacks would call. He called and showed 45 not suited. flop was 678. So when asking your self what did I do wrong. The answer might be playing the freeroll in the first place with any expectations of normal play.

 

[duggs]

I was in the $200 Freeroll. I was dealt AA in the BB. I had 20,000 chips I was in 4th place the chip leader was at my table he had 26,000 chips. He raised in early position he had 2 callers both short stacks. So I decide to Isolate and shove all in knowing the 2 short stacks would call. He called and showed 45 not suited. flop was 678. So when asking your self what did I do wrong. The answer might be playing the freeroll in the first place with any expectations of normal play.

no idea why you always complain about bad play?

 

[Worak]

no idea why you always complain about bad play?

I don't get this either.... if I get opponents like this I happily put them on my buddy-list and bum-hunt them all day.

 

[David G]

There's some not so good advice in here besides the last couple posts talking about not complaining/worrying about bad play, as it is indeed what will make you $$.

I'm going to be a lot less results oriented than most here and go as far as to say you did nothing wrong here. If you wanted to be a little closer to perfect/ideal, the way you described this it sounds like you are out of position, perhaps the SB, but either way I think you should make it 8 or 900 rather than 6. Shoving is fine too, but I really don't see much difference value wise as with just raising 4-4.5x. The times you get called where you wouldn't when you shove/compared to the times you lose because you didn't shove= about the same value imo. If in any doubt or you're just an uncomfortable person, shoving pre is always right and you can';t go wrong.

As played I don't see a hand in their range that can beat you with a free turn card and I don't think there's much wrong with a check, bet, or shove. You checked. On the turn however you need to bet more than 400, you want to bet at least close to half pot, dont check again obv and 400 is a little too small. You can also shove but it doesn't really fit your line of thinking of checking the flop and are hoping someone calls you with a Q or weak ace for that amont. I think they are more likely to call 600 though and then will be priced in for your river all in.

The main point is I don't think there should be as much written about this as I just did. The only mistakes I see are you need to raise a little more pre and bet the turn a little more as played. The other posters advice of shoving pre is fine, but I think it's more based on the result that they make it seem like an absolute. You have aces here. If you have AK it becomes a shove all day. Believe it or not, even on a short stack, you're in good shape with aces and don't gave to shove simply cause you're close to 10BB's. Unless these ppl consistently call shoves, I think there's more value in just raising it because many people like to call/fold, but not call all ins.

I don't like the advice of fold on the river at all though (lol). Think that person may have just been pouring it on. That's my over analysis of a hand that didnt really need to be analyzed for the month Good luck

 

[calicard]

no idea why you always complain about bad play?

Not complaining stating a fact.

 

[OMGITSOVER9K]

ship it pre, all day! you'll probably get a loose call, especially in a freeroll..

checking monsters is only good when there's a really slim chance you'll be outdrawn (e.g. TT on a T33 flop) otherwise you want to keep betting.

and lol, blatantly complaining.. move up to where they respect your raises haha

 

[Arjonius]

Shove pre-. If everyone folds, you've just picked up 700, adding nearly a third to your stack. And it's not like you're eliminating the possibility of a call. Your range is far wider than AA, you only have 12BB and it's a freeroll = a pretty decent chance someone will call.

 

[woohoo sue]

agreed the shove pre flop may have eliminated that 45h.....but you wanted multi-callers for multi-pot and sometimes this is what you get and those hands catch....the guy with 45h did nothing wrong and calling your plays once u showed u wanted to lead was the right thing for him to do.

 

[FryGuy14]

There's some not so good advice in here besides the last couple posts talking about not complaining/worrying about bad play, as it is indeed what will make you $$.

I'm going to be a lot less results oriented than most here and go as far as to say you did nothing wrong here. If you wanted to be a little closer to perfect/ideal, the way you described this it sounds like you are out of position, perhaps the SB, but either way I think you should make it 8 or 900 rather than 6. Shoving is fine too, but I really don't see much difference value wise as with just raising 4-4.5x. The times you get called where you wouldn't when you shove/compared to the times you lose because you didn't shove= about the same value imo. If in any doubt or you're just an uncomfortable person, shoving pre is always right and you can';t go wrong.

As played I don't see a hand in their range that can beat you with a free turn card and I don't think there's much wrong with a check, bet, or shove. You checked. On the turn however you need to bet more than 400, you want to bet at least close to half pot, dont check again obv and 400 is a little too small. You can also shove but it doesn't really fit your line of thinking of checking the flop and are hoping someone calls you with a Q or weak ace for that amont. I think they are more likely to call 600 though and then will be priced in for your river all in.

The main point is I don't think there should be as much written about this as I just did. The only mistakes I see are you need to raise a little more pre and bet the turn a little more as played. The other posters advice of shoving pre is fine, but I think it's more based on the result that they make it seem like an absolute. You have aces here. If you have AK it becomes a shove all day. Believe it or not, even on a short stack, you're in good shape with aces and don't gave to shove simply cause you're close to 10BB's. Unless these ppl consistently call shoves, I think there's more value in just raising it because many people like to call/fold, but not call all ins.

I don't like the advice of fold on the river at all though (lol). Think that person may have just been pouring it on. That's my over analysis of a hand that didnt really need to be analyzed for the month Good luck

Thanks for the advice! To the rest who gave GOOD feedback, it's much appreciated. I hope to put it to good use!