$Freeroll NLHE MTT: Bottom set multiway 3-flush board facing check raise on the river

[quant1986]

$Freeroll NLHE MTT: Bottom set multiway 3-flush board facing check raise on the river

Early stage freeroll MTT
partypoker, Hold'em No Limit - 250/500 (55 ante) - 8 players
Hand delivered by Upswing Poker

UTG: 52,010 (104 bb)
UTG+1: 48,730 (97 bb)
MP: 46,630 (93 bb)
MP+1: 47,555 (95 bb)
CO (Hero): 46,980 (94 bb)
BU: 56,245 (112 bb)
SB: 42,230 (84 bb)
BB: 59,620 (119 bb)

Pre-Flop: (1,190) Hero is CO with 3♣ 3♥
4 players fold, Hero raises to 1,150, BTN calls 1,150, SB calls 900, BB calls 650

Flop: (5,040) K♠ 7♦ A♦ (4 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero checks, BTN checks

Turn: (5,040) 3♦ (4 players)
SB checks, BB bets 2,520, Hero calls 2,520, 2 players fold

River: (10,080) 6♠ (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets 4,500, BB raises to 18,810, Hero??

Questions:
1. Would you bet the river?
2. What do you think villain check-raise with?

Villain is an unknown but probably quite loose.

 

[puzzlefish]

Villain will check raise you with higher sets, flushes, and air to bluff you off your weak set. I have lost in this situation too many times to count.

 

[Streetwylde]

When he bet the flush on the turn where you made a set, When he checked the river and with flush possible and he bet it on the turn I'd have just called this way you at least would've known if you had the best or he did hit that flush. Saves you chips if he moves in after he checked to get you to hopefully put more chips in so he could move in.

 

[Nathan Smith]

Early stage freeroll MTT
partypoker, Hold'em No Limit - 250/500 (55 ante) - 8 players
Hand delivered by Upswing Poker

UTG: 52,010 (104 bb)
UTG+1: 48,730 (97 bb)
MP: 46,630 (93 bb)
MP+1: 47,555 (95 bb)
CO (Hero): 46,980 (94 bb)
BU: 56,245 (112 bb)
SB: 42,230 (84 bb)
BB: 59,620 (119 bb)

Pre-Flop: (1,190) Hero is CO with 3♣ 3♥
4 players fold, Hero raises to 1,150, BTN calls 1,150, SB calls 900, BB calls 650

Flop: (5,040) K♠ 7♦ A♦ (4 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero checks, BTN checks

Turn: (5,040) 3♦ (4 players)
SB checks, BB bets 2,520, Hero calls 2,520, 2 players fold

River: (10,080) 6♠ (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets 4,500, BB raises to 18,810, Hero??

Questions:
1. Would you bet the river?
2. What do you think villain check-raise with?

Villain is an unknown but probably quite loose.

This feels like a x/r with the nuts. Or a better hand than yours.
He can have KQd, KJd, K10d, K9d, K8d, Kd, K6d, QJd, Q10d, Q9d, Q8d, Q6d, J10d, J9d, J8d, J6d, 109d, 108d, 106d, 98d, 96d, 86d,. He might x/r 66 on the river but I doubt he bets this on turn.

I think all his 2-pairs are either block betting or x/c river. He could be betting a hand with the K of diamonds on the turn, but I doubt this would x/r river either. His only bluffs are hands with Q of diamonds - maybe Q10, QJ. So saying that he doesn't really have any bluffs.

 

[scubed]

Questions:
1. Would you bet the river?
2. What do you think villain check-raise with?

1. In this case, I would check behind the river and see a showdown. Hero should think through how he will respond to a check-raise before betting. If Hero is value betting, what worse hands is Hero trying to get a call from?
2. Villain got great pot odds preflop - I think he only needs to win ~14% of the time to make the call, so I think he is calling preflop with any two cards. Rarely are big bets on the river a bluff.

 

[levidoff]

This is a freeroll. Search for logic in the actions does not make sense))

 

[SuzdalDEcor]

If the opponent capable of bluffing, you must call this check-raise everytimes. If he is passive - easy fold.

 

[haystack]

he did lead out bet the 3rd diamond on the turn i would fold here as the flush is very possible.

 

[Viper ChipIt]

Its probably a fold here, do you have any stats or reads on the villian ? It feels really close but i sigh and fold. Fwiw im always betting the river after villian checks so i think you played it fine.

 

[tmfnsanders]

This is a freeroll. Search for logic in the actions does not make sense))

THIS!!!!!

Never folding. The average freeroll player will not lead out on the turn when they hit their flush, nor would they c/r the river as they would see your flatcall on the turn and not expect you to bet the river after he checks- so he wouldn't likely check with the intention of c/ring he would bet out because he would be scared of not getting paid off.

This seems a whole lot more to me like he has the Kd, paired up on the flop caught the NFD on the turn, then when he got to the river he checks wanting a cheap showdown but when you bet he figures you have an A and after a bit of thought decides the only way he can win this pot is to turn his Kd into a bluff by betting big.

 

[quant1986]

I folded and villain showed 9d4d

 

[kkonicke]

I almost never see players check the nuts on the river in micros or freerolls. I initially didn't realize this was a freeroll, and I was having a really hard time making sense of this guy having any hand that beats you. I would think either Qx with the queen of diamonds or a small flush here. Qx makes sense as when you bet the river, he has to know he isn't good and it trying to steal. A small flush makes sense as I could see a small flush betting the turn to make someone with the K or Q of diamonds pay to see a 4th diamond come off to make their flush. The check-raise is still a bit bizarre based on this play. In a freeroll, I won't have much respect for the player and will probably call...expecting to see K6 or another weird 2 pair very often.