Preflop - as many have said - is too loose of an open and is generally a fold. We didnt so we go to a Q hi flop multi way.
Our opponent donks into us on the flop for 200 into 1700...I would raise to 800-1000 here if I am raising at all...my Q is still marginal and my opponent has all the 2 pair hands, smaller sets, straight draw combos and we dont block much of any of that so it only compounds our hand strength issues.
He calls, the turn pairs and he leads again...when he leads into multiple opponents first that's a red flag in itself, but when we calls a raise on the flop and leads the turn into you with a larger bet...this should start to feel REALLY fishy. Normally this would be a sign of incredible strength - however it is a freeroll and god only knows how many ppl would float you with A2 on the flop...that being said. We should start to have alarm bells going off here.
Then the river brings in the Q and he leads into us a 3rd time....even the loosest players ever aren't usually doing this with a 2, so he has to have the Q or better, which in this case would only be 22 or QT - otherwise we are chopping.
No sense in raising the river here to try and push any Q off a chop...no one is ever folding so you arnt getting any additional value from worse Qx hands - you are however value towning yourself vs the two nut hands of QT and 22 - sure enuff this time he happened to have one of them.
So in summary when our villan leads and calls a raise - then leads into us twice more - that should be a sign of extreme strength - and when we get to the river, realize that no Qx is ever folding and that we get no additional value by raising - so the correct play (since we cannot value bet) is to just call. If we get shown 1 of 2 nut hands we are still in, otherwise we are likely chopping or we got value from an overly aggressive 2.
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