$Freeroll NLHE MTT: ACR/ CasinoOrg Freeroll A9s vs AJo / 30 left

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In this hand I played very badly, I got confused due to some statistics. How: fold 3-bet = 0
fold C-bet 0
and raise river 54
But now I understand what these stats meant ... it was a lot of lack of attention ... As he is TAG, the range he would be entering does not fold to the tribet or C-bet r probably all hands he enters or he makes him give up or go to showdanw ... excellent solid player exploited me to do what ...


Winning Poker, Hold'em No Limit - 400/800 (100 ante) - 7 players
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GUDONES (UTG): 30,611 (38 bb)
gurg (MP): 2,766 (3 bb)
Flowingdown75 (MP+1): 11,400 (14 bb)
Poker Paparazzi (CO): 5,695 (7 bb)
1MilhaoSemNada (BU): 37,208 (47 bb)
CRYSTALEMORRIS (SB): 4,706 (6 bb)
keepthechange (BB): 14,866 (19 bb)

Pre-Flop: (1,900) Hero (1MilhaoSemNada) is BTN with 9 A
GUDONES (UTG) raises to 1,600, 3 players fold, 1MilhaoSemNada (BU) 3-bets to 2,800, 2 players fold, GUDONES (UTG) calls 1,200

Flop: (7,500) T 7 A (2 players)
GUDONES (UTG) bets 800, 1MilhaoSemNada (BU) raises to 3,530, GUDONES (UTG) calls 2,730

Turn: (14,560) T (2 players)
GUDONES (UTG) bets 10,920, 1MilhaoSemNada (BU) calls 10,920

River: (36,400) J (2 players)
GUDONES (UTG) bets 13,261 (all-in), 1MilhaoSemNada (BU) calls 13,261

Total pot: 62,922

Showdown:
GUDONES (UTG) shows J A (two pair, Aces and Jacks)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 70%, Flop: 81%, Turn: 88%, River: 100%)

1MilhaoSemNada (BU) shows 9 A (two pair, Aces and Tens)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 30%, Flop: 19%, Turn: 13%, River: 0%)

GUDONES (UTG) wins 62,922
 
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Preflop
I actually think, all 3 options are reasonable here. You dont really want to get involved with this guy, because he is the only player at the table, who can threaten your stack, and he is also opening UTG, although you are only 7-handed. A9s is not in great shape against his range, so there is nothing wrong with just getting out of his way.

I also dont mind calling and try to play a pot with him and possible 1-2 players from the blinds in position. And finally I dont mind throwing in a 3-bet from time to time, since he also has a lot of incentive to not get involved with you. So a 3-bet should get a decent amount of folds, although maybe not so much in a freeroll.

However if you are going to 3-bet, you need to make it larger like 3 or 3,5X his raise. When you min-click, he is going to continue with his entire range, so you dont get any fold equity, which is the whole point in 3-betting a hand like A9s.

Flop
You hit top pair, and he comes out for a donk bet of 1BB into a pot of almost 9BB. I typically always ignore such a bet, because its meaningless. However in this spot, had he checked to me, I would have checked back for pot control, because you have a very bad kicker, and your hand dont need a lot of protection on this board. So I would just have called rather than raised here.

Turn
Turn pairs the board with middle card, and now he bets 2/3 pot, which commits him, since more than half the effective stack is now in the middle. He is kind of saying, he has at least trips here, which is certainly possible, and your hand is really only a bluff catcher. I would fold now and preserve the rest of my stack. I dont think, you are good here anywhere near often enough.

River
Now he moves all in for around 35% of the pot, so you are getting a really good price. However KQ and 98 made a straight now, so there are even more hands, that beat you, and less hands that are potentially bluffing. Moreover your kicker dont play, so even if he is overplaying A2-A8, you are only calling for a chopper.

So as played I think, folding is actually still a reasonable option. You need to have around 22% equity to call, and I think, you have more like 5-10% against his range, unless he is some crazy maniac. You also have a lot of better hands to defend with like AT-AK, so its completely fine to let this one go. But really I would have let it go on the turn, and then it would not even be a decision now.
 
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Preflop
I actually think, all 3 options are reasonable here. You dont really want to get involved with this guy, because he is the only player at the table, who can threaten your stack, and he is also opening UTG, although you are only 7-handed. A9s is not in great shape against his range, so there is nothing wrong with just getting out of his way.

I also dont mind calling and try to play a pot with him and possible 1-2 players from the blinds in position. And finally I dont mind throwing in a 3-bet from time to time, since he also has a lot of incentive to not get involved with you. So a 3-bet should get a decent amount of folds, although maybe not so much in a freeroll.

However if you are going to 3-bet, you need to make it larger like 3 or 3,5X his raise. When you min-click, he is going to continue with his entire range, so you dont get any fold equity, which is the whole point in 3-betting a hand like A9s.

Flop
You hit top pair, and he comes out for a donk bet of 1BB into a pot of almost 9BB. I typically always ignore such a bet, because its meaningless. However in this spot, had he checked to me, I would have checked back for pot control, because you have a very bad kicker, and your hand dont need a lot of protection on this board. So I would just have called rather than raised here.

Turn
Turn pairs the board with middle card, and now he bets 2/3 pot, which commits him, since more than half the effective stack is now in the middle. He is kind of saying, he has at least trips here, which is certainly possible, and your hand is really only a bluff catcher. I would fold now and preserve the rest of my stack. I dont think, you are good here anywhere near often enough.

River
Now he moves all in for around 35% of the pot, so you are getting a really good price. However KQ and 98 made a straight now, so there are even more hands, that beat you, and less hands that are potentially bluffing. Moreover your kicker dont play, so even if he is overplaying A2-A8, you are only calling for a chopper.

So as played I think, folding is actually still a reasonable option. You need to have around 22% equity to call, and I think, you have more like 5-10% against his range, unless he is some crazy maniac. You also have a lot of better hands to defend with like AT-AK, so its completely fine to let this one go. But really I would have let it go on the turn, and then it would not even be a decision now.



Yes, thank you very much my dear! After reviewing the hand I clearly noticed that folding on the turn would be a very good thing. He practically designed his range for me and I ignored all the information and followed on impulse. I don't know if you agree?
 
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You hand beats nothing and your not even being given a chance to bluff, And man that TURN BET is nasty, BUT OTT YOU NEVER CALL HERE, JAM or FOLD this is your opportunity to have some FE. as you see calling OTT doesnt make him any less aggro OTR. but of course the J would have to hit
 
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He practically designed his range for me and I ignored all the information and followed on impulse. I don't know if you agree?


Absolutely. Him leading the turn for this size after bet-calling the flop is an extremely strong line of action. Maybe he could be doing it as a bluff with some kind of combodraw like KQ of spades or 98 of spades. But there are not a ton of those combos, and as someone already said, if you think, he is on a draw, it makes no sense to just call his turn bet.
 
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Hello, I agree in the large part with guys. In this situation we have to remember that on small blind and big blind are two players who are short stack and sometimes they will go allin with better hand than a9s. So I'm not sure if it is good idea to play this a9s in this situation. As played - I prefer only call pre flop with a9s and when I hit top pair on the flop I can play call on the flop and sometimes call on the turn. The turn card isn't good for us, because we haven't kicker in this hand. Players from utg raise many strong hand, at least TT+ and AJ+. So on the turn card I think that we can fold this hand, because even on the river will come some 9 card he change nothing. GL :)
 
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First, this hand starts with what do we know about the UTG villain. If they are a loose player then I get continuing with this hand. If they are not loose but a good 22/18 player or tighter I think folding here is just fine. Especially since they are the only at this table that can dent our stack and also probably one of the few in the tournament that can mess with us at all. Their range (assuming they arent loose) is beating us pretty good. Yes there are some KQ and KJ hands in there if they are high teens in raise % but for the most part you are going against pairs and bigger aces here. I like just calling myself but the last option I would do is what you do which is to small 3 bet. I think your valid options here are fold, call or 3 bet somewhat large (4200-5500). Small 3 betting will not get a fold from UTG and we still have some stacks after us to act. The non folds and two blinds after us make me want to just call and hopefully see a flop with a suited ace.

Luckily the blinds get out of the way so we are heads up. I would be telling myself in this spot that even if an ace flops it does not mean I am in good shape. With this flop and a backdoor straight I would probably either call (which I dont normally like doing to a min bet) or I would raise smaller than you did. I would raise not to try to get a fold but to see more of where I am at and keep the lead in the hand. I feel like villain either has a pair here which they know is not good or they have a bigger ace. No reason to try to get a fold now since we are either beat worse than we know or we are ahead of a hand like 88. For all we know villain could have a set too so I dont think I go crazy here but just keep the pot small for the times I am losing and lose less when I am beat.

The turn is really a bad card. The chance villain has some 10x is small but if so they now beat us and I dont think A8 or lower opens UTG which leaves me still to think we are going against a pair or Ax that beats us. However, look at the sizing that villain makes it on the turn. I doubt they are bluffing knowing we likely have an ace (maybe giving them too much credit as this is a freeroll). I would fold my hand right here to be honest. We raised they stayed and then bet large with a donk lead on a card we hate. I dont think 88 and 66 (if they could even have that) does this so I just walk away now.

The jack on the river doesnt change anything except a key point that we chop now with all Ax less than A9 which I still say does not even get to this point that often. You're beat here and with 19k in chips left you should fold and walk away. I still believe turn is a fold but if you called it as you did and then this action comes up you should fold. Your best scenario here is a chop since I dont think bluffs get this far (let me also say here too that how much villain knows you comes into play here. I have played against you a lot and I know in these spots you tend not to fold. If they know that then they even more likely are trying to get it all from you and not bluffing) so you need to fold.
 
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Hello, I agree in the large part with guys. In this situation we have to remember that on small blind and big blind are two players who are short stack and sometimes they will go allin with better hand than a9s. So I'm not sure if it is good idea to play this a9s in this situation. As played - I prefer only call pre flop with a9s and when I hit top pair on the flop I can play call on the flop and sometimes call on the turn. The turn card isn't good for us, because we haven't kicker in this hand. Players from utg raise many strong hand, at least TT+ and AJ+. So on the turn card I think that we can fold this hand, because even on the river will come some 9 card he change nothing. GL :)
the question about the effective stack is well placed. It was another information that I ignored. The correct thing would be limp call to hit flush nuts or two pair ... just like you said. And there was also a fold for the villain's style and stats ...
 
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First, this hand starts with what do we know about the UTG villain. If they are a loose player then I get continuing with this hand. If they are not loose but a good 22/18 player or tighter I think folding here is just fine. Especially since they are the only at this table that can dent our stack and also probably one of the few in the tournament that can mess with us at all. Their range (assuming they arent loose) is beating us pretty good. Yes there are some KQ and KJ hands in there if they are high teens in raise % but for the most part you are going against pairs and bigger aces here. I like just calling myself but the last option I would do is what you do which is to small 3 bet. I think your valid options here are fold, call or 3 bet somewhat large (4200-5500). Small 3 betting will not get a fold from UTG and we still have some stacks after us to act. The non folds and two blinds after us make me want to just call and hopefully see a flop with a suited ace.

Luckily the blinds get out of the way so we are heads up. I would be telling myself in this spot that even if an ace flops it does not mean I am in good shape. With this flop and a backdoor straight I would probably either call (which I dont normally like doing to a min bet) or I would raise smaller than you did. I would raise not to try to get a fold but to see more of where I am at and keep the lead in the hand. I feel like villain either has a pair here which they know is not good or they have a bigger ace. No reason to try to get a fold now since we are either beat worse than we know or we are ahead of a hand like 88. For all we know villain could have a set too so I dont think I go crazy here but just keep the pot small for the times I am losing and lose less when I am beat.

The turn is really a bad card. The chance villain has some 10x is small but if so they now beat us and I dont think A8 or lower opens UTG which leaves me still to think we are going against a pair or Ax that beats us. However, look at the sizing that villain makes it on the turn. I doubt they are bluffing knowing we likely have an ace (maybe giving them too much credit as this is a freeroll). I would fold my hand right here to be honest. We raised they stayed and then bet large with a donk lead on a card we hate. I dont think 88 and 66 (if they could even have that) does this so I just walk away now.

The jack on the river doesnt change anything except a key point that we chop now with all Ax less than A9 which I still say does not even get to this point that often. You're beat here and with 19k in chips left you should fold and walk away. I still believe turn is a fold but if you called it as you did and then this action comes up you should fold. Your best scenario here is a chop since I dont think bluffs get this far (let me also say here too that how much villain knows you comes into play here. I have played against you a lot and I know in these spots you tend not to fold. If they know that then they even more likely are trying to get it all from you and not bluffing) so you need to fold.



excellent! Thank you very much. I did have a few hands played with him and he is a very strong tag. I posted that hand because I played very badly and wanted opinions and criticism. We are Human, there's no way the guy gets it wrong!
I'm already working on my leaks related to aggression, I can be aggressive but balance my value and bluff a little better and also my call river and call tribet so I will avoid being exploited in these situations. It's actually working already.
Just one more thing, do you mean there was still a fold on the river? I had this doubt, and almost gave up but I thought I was already committed ...
 
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