Flop quad A's. How do you get paid off.

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This was the third hand dealt to me in a session the other night so I had no read on any of these players.
It was a .25/.50 limit game so most of the time you can get someone to play to the river.
How would you play this hand to get the max out of it.

** Game ID 462983319 starting - 2005-08-18 21:53:32
** Harley Davidson [Hold 'em] (0.25|0.50 Fixed Limit - Cash Game) real money
- mar333 sitting in seat 1 with $19.75 [Sitting out]
- rocka13 sitting in seat 2 with $18.00
- hens sitting in seat 3 with $17.13
- Redisov sitting in seat 4 with $74.22
- Skazal sitting in seat 5 with $19.76
- Sekelanaren sitting in seat 6 with $14.75
- white_silver sitting in seat 7 with $28.02 [Dealer]
- theWall sitting in seat 8 with $50.88
- slovak87 sitting in seat 9 with $3.67
- josephjoev sitting in seat 10 with $5.54

theWall posted the small blind - $0.12
slovak87 posted the big blind - $0.25
Skazal posted to play - $0.12
Sekelanaren posted to play - $0.25
** Dealing card to rocka13: Ace of Diamonds, Ace of Hearts
josephjoev folded
rocka13 raised - $0.50
hens folded
Redisov folded
Skazal called - $0.50
Sekelanaren folded
white_silver folded
theWall folded
slovak87 called - $0.50

** Dealing the flop: 9 of Diamonds, Ace of Spades, Ace of Clubs
slovak87 checked

I am next to act.
Whats the play here?
 
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At a low limit I'd just bet through and hope someone has KK/QQ/JJ/9x and can't get away from it. There is however probably some value in checking the flop and firing at the turn when (a) the bets double, and (b) hopefully somoene will pick up something.

Bear in mind a lot of the time you're quite simply not going to get paid though, as nobody will have a hand they like. The only hand you're guaranteed to make a fortune from here is 99, or any two pair that makes a boat on the turn.
 
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I would only call bets and or check it down to the river, then move in with a big bet. Hopefully I have lulled my opponents into a false sense of security and made them think I didn't have the Aces either. Soooo, hopefully they have a strong pocket that they think could beat any other hand with (aside from Aces) and will try to make a move to steal the pot. That's when I would move in.
 
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Well at the low limits there usually will be SOMEBODY that will at least call one of your bets but most likely the bets you got in before the flop are all you are going to get when you flop the pure nuts. try for a check raise on the flop and turn and if you get lucky somebody will catch a boat.
 
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juiceeQ said:
I would only call bets and or check it down to the river, then move in with a big bet.
He said it was a limit game. :p
 
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I would play the Aces hard the whole way, especially pre-flop and in a .25/.50 game even with flopping the immortal nuts, I'm still going to push at every opportunity with this hand. People at these limits will usually play draws fairly hard and bet them to the river, especially in a limit game. As long as someone plays their draws like that at your table then you'll have a pot donator to milk some bets out of. How did you play it, and how much did you win?
 
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Dorkus Malorkus said:
He said it was a limit game. :p

Ooops. My bad. :eek: Somehow I missed that part. :stupid: So in that case.....uh, yeah, what Diablo said. I would be clicking the "bet/raise" button hard!

Now,this might lead you to believe that I'm a blonde...but I swear--I am a brunette! The only problem is my mom's a blonde, and well, sometimes I get the residual effects...hahaha! :albertein

Actually, the more I think about (I am only on my 3rd cup of coffee, it takes a while for the old bean to warm up...lol), I think I would check after the flop (after capping the bet pre-flop). Then if someone bet/raised I would just call. After that I would check, then hit the "bet/raise" button from there on out, hopefully fooling my opponents that way and getting the most for my hand.
 
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Here's the rest of the hand. I think I probably got as much as I was going get out of this hand.
Thanks for your replies, just thought it might have been an interesting one to discuss.

** Dealing the flop: 9 of Diamonds, Ace of Spades, Ace of Clubs
slovak87 checked
rocka13 checked
Skazal bet - $0.25
slovak87 folded
rocka13 called - $0.25

** Dealing the turn: Jack of Hearts
rocka13 checked
Skazal bet - $0.50
rocka13 raised - $1.00
Skazal called - $1.00

** Dealing the river: 6 of Diamonds
rocka13 bet - $0.50
Skazal called - $0.50
Skazal mucks:
rocka13 wins $5.07 from the main pot

End of game 462983319
 
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Had some fun with quads today myself - first one is proof that you don't always get paid, second is proof that a donk who calls a push when he's at best a flip and at worst way behind can get lucky. Both these hands are from the same tourney, and both involve quad 4s.... SPOOKY~.

pokerstars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t20 (8 handed) converter

MP2 (t3070)
Hero (t1560)
Button (t1470)
SB (t1480)
BB (t1460)
UTG (t1500)
UTG+1 (t1500)
MP1 (t1460)

Preflop: Hero is CO with 4s, 4d.
2 folds, MP1 calls t20, 1 fold, Hero calls t20, Button calls t20, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: (t100) 4h, 9d, 4c (5 players)
SB checks, BB checks, MP1 checks, Hero checks, Button checks.

Turn: (t100) Qh (5 players)
SB bets t20, BB folds, MP1 calls t20, Hero calls t20, Button folds.

River: (t160) 8h (3 players)
SB checks, MP1 checks, Hero bets t100, SB folds, MP1 folds.

Final Pot: t260

Results below:
Hero has 4s 4d (four of a kind, fours).
Outcome: Hero wins t260.

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PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t200 (8 handed) converter

UTG (t11270)
UTG+1 (t3255)
MP1 (t2195)
MP2 (t3900)
CO (t5045)
Button (t1735)
SB (t1700)
Hero (t1380)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Ac, 6s.
1 fold, UTG+1 calls t200, 2 folds, CO calls t200, 1 fold, SB completes, Hero raises to t1380, UTG+1 folds, CO calls t1180, SB folds.

Flop: (t3160) 7d, 4s, 4c (2 players)

Turn: (t3160) 7s (2 players)

River: (t3160) 2c (2 players)

Final Pot: t3160

Results below:
Hero has Ac 6s (two pair, sevens and fours).
CO has 4h 4d (four of a kind, fours).
Outcome: CO wins t3160.
 
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ON the FLOP, you check. Let the table know you have nothing. On the next card reasonable raise and see if anyone bites. On the fifth, sit for a few seconds then a large raise. Not ALL-IN or you may scare them off. It should be a very profitable hand.:icon_king
 
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Dorkus Malorkus said:
second is proof that a donk who calls a push when he's at best a flip and at worst way behind can get lucky.
I'd have called in his situation (would've folded if UTG had called). Guess i'm a donk too!
 
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rocknjo said:
ON the FLOP, you check. Let the table know you have nothing. On the next card reasonable raise and see if anyone bites. On the fifth, sit for a few seconds then a large raise. Not ALL-IN or you may scare them off. It should be a very profitable hand.:icon_king
this is the strategy i like to use when i have the big hand or the nuts, but the important part is on the river, to wait a little bit, making the other player think that u are considering a bluff nad it would give them the courage to call
 
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Here was a good time for quads:

SnG tournament, $10 at pokerroom, heads-up

Seat 2: mykul604 ($4,880 in chips)
Seat 6: baudib [QH,AC] ($10,120 in chips)


ANTES/BLINDS
baudib posts blind ($100), mykul604 posts blind ($200).

PRE-FLOP
baudib calls $100, mykul604 bets $200, baudib calls $200.

FLOP [board cards QD,KH,QS ]
mykul604 checks, baudib checks.

TURN [board cards QD,KH,QS,QC ]
mykul604 checks, baudib checks.

RIVER [board cards QD,KH,QS,QC,AH ]
mykul604 bets $400, baudib bets $800, mykul604 bets $4,080 and is all-in, baudib calls $3,680.

Baudib: Good game...

SHOWDOWN
mykul604 shows [ KC,KD ]
baudib shows [ QH,AC ]
baudib wins $9,760.



SUMMARY
Dealer: baudib
Pot: $9,760
mykul604, loses $4,880
baudib, bets $4,880, collects $9,760, net $4,880

Can't blame either side for slow-playing, and any bet on any street would have been jusified. The amazing thing is I was behind on the flop. The only hands that beat him here are AA or the last Q.
 
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