Feedback on shove Allin MTT5€ after bubble

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Phil2307

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Hi,

I'm still beginning in poker and would any feedback about the play I made on MTT 5€. 12 left (12 places paid). I have around 20BB. I'm on the big blind with Kh4h. UTG+1 raise 2.2BB. SB calls, I call. Flop 2 hearts. SB checks. I shove all-in. UTG+1 calls. What do you think of that move?
Thank you

Seat 5 is the button
Total number of players : 6/6
Seat 1: HERO ( 563,892 )
Seat 2: VILLAIN( 156,960 )
Seat 3: UTG+1 ( 545,169 )
Seat 4: VILLAIN ( 616,888 )
Seat 5: VILLAIN ( 915,577 )
Seat 6: VILLAIN ( 867,687 )
Blinds-Antes(12,500/25,000 -3,100)
VILLAIN posts small blind [12,500 ].
HERO posts big blind [25,000 ].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to HERO [ Kh, 4h ]
VILLAIN folds
UTG+1 raises [ 55,000 ]
VILLAIN folds
VILLAIN folds
VILLAIN calls [ 42,500 ]
HERO calls [ 30,000 ]
** Dealing Flop ** [ 2h, 3d, 8h ]
VILLAIN checks
HERO is all-In [ 505,792 ]
UTG+1 is all-In [ 487,069 ]
VILLAIN folds
** Dealing Turn ** [ Jc ]
** Dealing River ** [ 2c ]
HERO shows [ Kh, 4h ]a pair of Twos.
UTG+1 shows [ 9c, 9s ]two pairs, Nines and Twos
 
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I think you should reconsider your idea of playing poker... :D:D Just kidding!

But admit that it's a beginner's move.. don't get me wrong I was doing it not so long ago and it's still difficult no to shove some times.

I try to only play that type of agressive game when playing bounty builder or progressive ko.. otherwise, I'm trying to get rid of that habit, to play all my chips before the river when it's not needed.

-TRP-
 
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Hi,

I'm still beginning in poker and would any feedback about the play I made on MTT 5€. 12 left (12 places paid). I have around 20BB. I'm on the big blind with Kh4h. UTG+1 raise 2.2BB. SB calls, I call. Flop 2 hearts. SB checks. I shove all-in. UTG+1 calls. What do you think of that move?
Thank you

Seat 5 is the button
Total number of players : 6/6
Seat 1: HERO ( 563,892 )
Seat 2: VILLAIN( 156,960 )
Seat 3: UTG+1 ( 545,169 )
Seat 4: VILLAIN ( 616,888 )
Seat 5: VILLAIN ( 915,577 )
Seat 6: VILLAIN ( 867,687 )
Blinds-Antes(12,500/25,000 -3,100)
VILLAIN posts small blind [12,500 ].
HERO posts big blind [25,000 ].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to HERO [ Kh, 4h ]
VILLAIN folds
UTG+1 raises [ 55,000 ]
VILLAIN folds
VILLAIN folds
VILLAIN calls [ 42,500 ]
HERO calls [ 30,000 ]
** Dealing Flop ** [ 2h, 3d, 8h ]
VILLAIN checks
HERO is all-In [ 505,792 ]
UTG+1 is all-In [ 487,069 ]
VILLAIN folds
** Dealing Turn ** [ Jc ]
** Dealing River ** [ 2c ]
HERO shows [ Kh, 4h ]a pair of Twos.
UTG+1 shows [ 9c, 9s ]two pairs, Nines and Twos
Hello! I think you were relieved after what probably was a long run to the pay-out places, 20bb probably were shortstack.. So it was ok to let some steam off and gamble it. You could've got it good :) I am no beginner, and would have played it the same.. Keep up the good work! :)
 
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Hi,

I'm still beginning in poker and would any feedback about the play I made on MTT 5€. 12 left (12 places paid). I have around 20BB. I'm on the big blind with Kh4h. UTG+1 raise 2.2BB. SB calls, I call. Flop 2 hearts. SB checks. I shove all-in. UTG+1 calls. What do you think of that move?
Thank you

Seat 5 is the button
Total number of players : 6/6
Seat 1: HERO ( 563,892 )
Seat 2: VILLAIN( 156,960 )
Seat 3: UTG+1 ( 545,169 )
Seat 4: VILLAIN ( 616,888 )
Seat 5: VILLAIN ( 915,577 )
Seat 6: VILLAIN ( 867,687 )
Blinds-Antes(12,500/25,000 -3,100)
VILLAIN posts small blind [12,500 ].
HERO posts big blind [25,000 ].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to HERO [ Kh, 4h ]
VILLAIN folds
UTG+1 raises [ 55,000 ]
VILLAIN folds
VILLAIN folds
VILLAIN calls [ 42,500 ]
HERO calls [ 30,000 ]
** Dealing Flop ** [ 2h, 3d, 8h ]
VILLAIN checks
HERO is all-In [ 505,792 ]
UTG+1 is all-In [ 487,069 ]
VILLAIN folds
** Dealing Turn ** [ Jc ]
** Dealing River ** [ 2c ]
HERO shows [ Kh, 4h ]a pair of Twos.
UTG+1 shows [ 9c, 9s ]two pairs, Nines and Twos
i think, check then all in is better if someone bet.. because u are potencial winner of this mtt...
 
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Pushing all in on the flop with o many chips is not a great idea. For the most part you will only get called by better and could get him to fold other hands by betting smaller. If he call and you hit your draw you have a better chance of winning a nice pot instead of winning a small one when he folds and avoid going broke when he has a hand.
 
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I'm a beginner too, but IMO, you unfortunately didn't play this hand well. When going all-in here, you have to ask yourself what your goal is, so why are you going all-in ? Because you're having the nuts here and are going for value ? Because you want to bluff and have him fold ?Because you're just in a bad mood ?

Here, you should have checked back. You're hand isn't strong on the flop, you have a flush draw only, and have about 36% of hitting it on the turn or river. A K of course would also be an out for you, so you should add it too.

But anyway, I think you didn't really think about what you wanted to reach with this play. Only better hands will call this all-in right ? So if you only have like 50% of hitting something until the river, would you really want that ?! The answer is no, and that's why going all-in here isn't a good move.

Have fun, and good luck on the tables :)
 
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I don't think a shove here is the best move. All you have at the moment is a draw with 2 cards left to come. I would expect calls from anyone that hit a pair on the flop and many pocket pairs.
 
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What is a common mistake is the overconfidence of you actually completing the flush so if you get called by any pair your an underdog.
on the flip-side to this coin if you would have checked and let someone else bet you could either fold, float/call,or shove all in for good fold equity if you have an opponents range/read.
I think leading out here is a bad play

also note it doesnt matter what he actually had this time its about getting a long term game theory of about a range of hands he coulda had and the future bet lines further isolating said range

GL on the tables
 
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It looks a lot like a flush draw when you just jam here. I think you should go for a mix of check-call and check-raise.
 
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Think about what you would do with all your strong hands here. Which hand in your range do you flat a raise pre in the BB and not re-raise with that also wants to open shove this flop? I can't think of one. Your overpairs should be raising pre. You shouldn't have two pair. And V is ahead of A8. Your sets should be betting smaller and jamming turn. Your hand looks like exactly what it is. A flush draw. As others have said maybe a x/r or x/c would be more effective depending on the action. Also ok to fold pre OOP facing an EP raise from a tight player IMO.
 
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The preflop call is totally fine and standard.
Check raise all in on the flop. you gain value from his Cbet bluffs. (and you might have a bit of fold equity vs his weakest value hands)

with your donk jam you pretty much let him play his hand perfectly.
 
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I'm surprised that nobody is considering UTG+1 opening range taking into an account that he only has 22 big blinds. His range is tight, he is not a chip leader with 70+ big blinds who is trying to apply pressure on the whole table and has way too many hands. So you will get called quite often here.
Best of luck! :)
 
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Don't shove his range is strong UTG.... just check call and reevaluate on turn.
 
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