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TheseNutsWin

TheseNutsWin

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1/3 into freeroll tourney table is pretty thigh/aggresive type, As you you can i dont have that many chips left...so here's what i do.. tell me if i made an incorrect move ... should i have made a continuation bet after the flop?

pokerstars Game #16265974137: Tournament #81875515, Freeroll Hold'em No Limit - Level VI (100/200) - 2008/03/26 - 14:04:40 (ET)
Table '81875515 108' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: SJCJ (4060 in chips)
Seat 2: Thunder77772 (4070 in chips)
Seat 3: bigsurfz (2650 in chips)
Seat 4: KNUG DAVE (2895 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 5: Ribjorn (5480 in chips)
Seat 6: Tine 113 (240 in chips)
Seat 7: bustenya! (16050 in chips)
Seat 8: katzaway (4320 in chips)
Seat 9: TheseNutsWin(865 in chips)
bigsurfz: posts small blind 100
KNUG DAVE: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to TheseNutsWin[Kc As]
Ribjorn: folds
Tine 113: folds
bustenya!: folds
katzaway: folds
TheseNutsWin: raises 200 to 400
SJCJ: folds
Thunder77772: folds
bigsurfz: calls 300
KNUG DAVE: folds
*** FLOP *** [Qh 2h 9s]
bigsurfz: checks
TheseNutsWin: checks
*** TURN *** [Qh 2h 9s] [Ah]
bigsurfz: bets 400
gskowal: raises 65 to 465 and is all-in
bigsurfz: calls 65
*** RIVER *** [Qh 2h 9s Ah] [7d]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
bigsurfz: shows [2s 7s] (two pair, Sevens and Deuces)
TheseNutsWin: shows [Kc As] (a pair of Aces)
bigsurfz collected 1930 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 1930 | Rake 0
Board [Qh 2h 9s Ah 7d]
Seat 1: SJCJ folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: Thunder77772 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: bigsurfz (small blind) showed [2s 7s] and won (1930) with two pair, Sevens and Deuces
Seat 4: KNUG DAVE (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 5: Ribjorn folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: Tine 113 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: bustenya! folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: katzaway folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: TheseNutsWin showed [Kc As] and lost with a pair of Aces
 
Dorkus Malorkus

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AK + <5BBs = Just shove preflop.
 
TheseNutsWin

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so my pre flop raise wasnt big enough? i mix it up sometimes, 3X sometime i call this time i decided to raise X1
 
Dorkus Malorkus

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the problem is you're throwing 400 chips in and leaving just over 400 chips in your stack. there are few situations which could arise postflop which would make you fold (and if you do fold you're leaving yourself with nothing to work with), so you may as well just shove preflop. if you get called you're probably ahead or coinflipping (and you shouldn't mind coinflipping with such a small stack), and even if everyone folds the result is still really good for you as winning just the blinds here increases your stack by almost a third.

this generally applies when you're sitting on less than 10BBs. search the forums and/or try putting 'shortstack strategy' into google for more detail.

edit: archive thread which is somewhat relevant
 
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What he is saying is that there is no point raising XxBB because you should just shove. You are short stacked, this is a top hand so just shove...there is absolutely no point leaving yourself with like 600 chips because even if you miss the flop you pretty much have to shove anyways.

EDIT: got there before me
 
jaymfc

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ok but I'm still wondering how this guy got in on the turn ?

gskowal: raises 65 to 465 and is all-in :)
 
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