Continuation bet bluff I think

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-JimD-

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Hi all,
Is this a good example of the tactic, or is it a bit rubbish?
I liked it, but that doesn't mean much, Im a beginner seeking reassurance I suppose!

Please dont be too rough on me.

Thanks
Jim

Hand #50888840-21 at SnG-4011981-1 (No Limit tournament Hold'em)
Started at 17/Feb/08 18:09:16

Mikerloak is at seat 1 with 1610.
Broken_Hearts is at seat 2 with 1340.
-JimD- is at seat 3 with 4235.
quiettopman is at seat 4 with 1535.
DoggyDaze is at seat 6 with 1900.
lord-poker is at seat 8 with 4300.
philly_poker is at seat 9 with 4625.
The button is at seat 2.

-JimD- posts the small blind of 20.
quiettopman posts the big blind of 40.
Mikerloak: -- --
Broken_Hearts: -- --
-JimD-: 4h Ac
quiettopman: -- --
DoggyDaze: -- --
lord-poker: -- --
philly_poker: -- --
Pre-flop:

DoggyDaze calls. lord-poker calls. philly_poker
folds. Mikerloak folds. Broken_Hearts calls.
-JimD- calls. quiettopman checks.
Flop (board: 3s 7d Qd):

-JimD- checks. quiettopman checks. DoggyDaze bets
40. lord-poker calls. Broken_Hearts calls. -JimD-
raises to 400. quiettopman folds. DoggyDaze calls.
lord-poker calls. Broken_Hearts folds.
Turn (board: 3s 7d Qd 7c):

-JimD- bets 1440. DoggyDaze folds. lord-poker
folds. -JimD- is returned 1440 (uncalled).

Hand #50888840-21 Summary:

No rake is taken for this hand.
-JimD- wins 1440.
 
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CfPoker

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A continuation bet is where you raise preflop, then bet at the flop even if you miss in an effort to get others to fold. AK for example is a hand that you will raise with preflop but often miss the flop. A continuation bet might be enough to take the pot.

Be careful though as it's one of the most obvious tactics in the game. For example, say you raise 4bbs preflop and I call with something like 77 and the flop comes 236. If you bet out at that I'm reasonably confident you're just continuation betting and will probably raise you. It obviously depends on the player and the situation though.

As for this hand...

I see you have a big stack but I see no reason for you to be involved in this hand. A-rag is a hand that can easily get you into trouble when an ace hits. Your flop raise isn't great I don't think. There's a lot of players in the pot and one of them may well have hit that flop given how many limpers there were.

Firing another barrel on the turn is gutsy, and you got away with it, but if they had something they'd have took your chips from you, when you really didn't need to involved in the hand in the first place.
 
c9h13no3

c9h13no3

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bluffing should be done against 1 player, early in the hand, and you should have a clear idea of what you're representing.

You have a big stack early in a SnG. Taking this into account, here's what I consider mistakes with the hand:

1) You have a stack large enough that allows you to be selective with which hands you play. Unless this is a turbo tournament, you have time to be selective with your starting hands & you want to preserve your stack. Do so.

2) Raise A5 if you're going to play it. You want to set yourself up to bluff only 1 player on the flop. As played, you had to bluff away 3 players, which is significantly harder to do.

3) Don't c-bet this flop into 3 players. There's a flush draw & a queen on the flop, and that's usually enough to have your c-bet get one caller.

4) Double-barreling here wasn't a terrible move, but what if lord-poker calls? You just parted ways with 1800 chips that you didn't have to lose. If you get big stacked early in any tournament, the first thing in your head should be preserving that stack. Wait until you get closer to the bubble to start (ab)using the power of your larger stack.
 
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If he called the turn bluff you have then committed around a quarter of your chips, do you then fire a river bluff, because you could be dominated, and getting slow played. Regardless you risked 1440 to win 640, where if anyone calls you dont really even have anything to draw to other than an ace, which could be crushed. Cant rag on you too much though you did scoop it, its only a bad play if you get caught.
 
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THank you all for your responses. Its the first time I've had my play looked at by experts! Yourfeed back is brilliant. Is there a hand on the forum that will show me a good example of this? Or anyother strategies that are good.

I've read some books but I dont think there's anything better than someone showing you another view, when your seeing it only your way.

They did call me a 'Donkey' afterwards, I took it as a compliment. (lol)

thanks all
 
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-JimD-

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Can I ask also What's the bubble? I'm guessing that its the prize winning positions. ?
 
SubT33

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The 'bubble' is actually the last person to go out who doesn't place in the money. A lot of times people will tighten up because they don't want to go out on the bubble i.e. be so close to making the money.
 
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CfPoker

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I bubbled at casino on Tuesday in 6th place :( Then almost bubbled in 6th last night but got lucky and went on to hit 2nd :)

But.. an example of a continuation bet that's entirely made up:

Blinds: 50/100 - Stacks 10,000

Dealt to hero: 8d9d

UTG+2 (Villian) calls
CO (Hero) raises to 300
Everyone else folds
Villian calls

Pot: 750

Flop: 3s 4c Qh

Villian checks

This is a nice spot to try a cbet. This flop has probably missed him. He may be worried you've hit the Q.

Hero bets 500
Villian folds
 
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