Bad Omaha High Play or bad luck?

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aarono2690

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Earlier tonight I was in a $40 Omaha High tournament at Fortune Bay Casino, in Minnesota. The players there were complete fishes and many did not know how to even play Omaha. Towards the final table there were about 3-5 good players. Anywho out of the 18-20 people the casino carried on it's tradition of low pay out posistions and only paid out to second place. I was on my A-Game. Before the final table I was the chip leader with around 18,000 chips (starting with 3,500).

The hand that almost killed me. (I may of forgot minor details, so do ask before yelling at me).

I had 8H-9D-10D-QD, and the flop comes JS-7C-JC. My opponent bets I think 2,000 into a 3,000-4,000 pot. I figure him for a Jack but I misread the board (I believed I flopped a straight, very bad mistake) plus I figured I had a good hand to bust him with so I raised to 6,000. He thinks about it stating that the only hand that can beat him currently is 777JJ.

He pushes all in for 9,000 (another 3k ontop of my raise), I realize my raise was kind of stupid but I do have outs so I thought about it and called. Turn comes it's an 8 of spades giving me my straight and I think it's all but over and the river card comes and it's an ace of spades giving him a flush!

I about killed someone. For him to go all in with a set of jacks and end up busting me with a runner-runner flush! Was this a bad beat, bad play on my part, etc?

A few hands later I managed to double up to about 8,000. Lost to another flush when I turned a straight (he bet the flop leaving me not to speculate he had the flush) and busted out in 4th place.

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If you ask why I made such a play if you believe it was stupid, I did figure that if I did hit my hand I'd bust him and become a super-stack increasing my chances that much more of winning.
 
jaketrevvor

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I think I must be missing something - how can it be a bad beat if he had way the best hand when all the chips were moved in? You hitting an 8 outter on the turn was a lot luckier than him hitting a 18 outter on the river (of course I don't know his exact hole cards but anything that paired one of his hole cards (9 outs) plus the other Jack (1 out) plus the remaining spades (8 outs - not counting the spade which would have paired his non-spade-non-jack hole card) would have given him the best hand.)

Well done on getting deep into the tourn tho - ul you busted so close to the money.
 
OzExorcist

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He had the better hand and the better draw the whole way by the looks of it, and you compounded it by making a mistake reading your hand. Would be interesting to know what the pre-flop action was.

Just ask yourself this: if you had have read the flop correctly, would you still have re-raised?
 
skoldpadda

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very poor decision to play this hand on paired board.
 
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I don't think you had enough outs to make this move, you only had the inside straight draw or the runner runner, it was lucky that you got the 8, but sometimes poker is just fair =P
he had the best hand since the beggining and he got it
 
roundcat

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It's unfortunate that you misread your hand or you could have/should have gotten away from it at on the flop. 9 outs without a backup draw and so much betting action would be a fold for me.

Beware straights in Omaha... even the nut straight isn't always that strong, especially as skoldpadda said on a paired board.
 
CAPT. ZIGZAG

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Don't think I wudda been drawing to a small straight with a pair (boat) on the board.


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