Bad luck or bad call

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lcbjr1979

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im playing a $33 single table sit n go on party poker the blinds are 200 400 and we are down to 5. i have 4500 in chips. i get dealt Ace/d Jack/c on the button. folded to me and i raise to 1600 small blind folds big blind calls. the guy in the big blind loves to defend and about 75% makes a bet on the flop to steal the pot. flop comes queen/s five/s 8/h he bets 1200 i raise it to 2400 he bets enough to put me all in. i was so sure i had him beat with ace high so i called he turns over Ace/h 10/c turn is a king/h river is 10/s he wins and im out. my question is was this a bad call on my part or bad luck on my part.
 
withawedge

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Didn´t you have the run 10 - A here. He had a pair of tens.

Have i misread your posting

If so apologies

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lcbjr1979

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no the 10 on the river paired his 10 in the whole i just had ace high
 
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What you said you have is

In the pocket Ad, Jc

Flop = Qs, 5s, 8h,
Turn = Kh
River = 10s

10 - A run from the above

He was dealt Ah, 10c

Flop = Qs, 5s, 8h,
Turn = Kh
River = 10s

Only a pair of tens.

:confused:
 
whyareunvs

whyareunvs

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There are a lot of hands that beat you after that flop. Even playing A-rag could have gotten him bottom pair so you're down to a rougly 16% chance of making a pair. If he holds an Ace then that is only 8%. The value you get from A-K through A-J and sometimes A-10 is typically going to be more for fold equity than because the hand is a monster unto itself. With a flop like this you've only got one over card to the board. Yes, he could have been defending his blind but are you willing to put your entire chip stack at risk over one overcard to the board?
 
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Can someone out there please check i have not gone mad.

lcbjr1979 did have STRAIGHT 10 - A
villain 10,10

Only asking because whyareunvs never mentioned it

Cheers

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whyareunvs

whyareunvs

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I'm with ya that the stated hands with the stated board don't mesh. I was just making the comment assuming he'd gotten the hands wrong or the board wrong or both.
 
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Lets assume for a second that there is no K on river, just so we can have a discussion about the play rather than what card hit the river and whether its a split etc etc

Your play pf is pretty standard in relation to the blinds and the hand you have. I dont personally like the re-raise on the flop but you were correct in that you had the best hand, so its difficult to criticise your play

You got outdrawn to one of his 3 outs, which is not nice but it happens.

I dont persoanlly like commiting my stack with A-high though, especially when I have enough for a fair few rounds of blinds yet
 
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I would have said it was more down to Badluck. You had a good hand enough to play just unfortunate
 
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Styrofoam

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i am calling shenanigans. with Ace Jack you have a straight 10, J Q K A and he has 10 10 A K Q. You would win this. When the King came on the turn, he was drawing dead.
 
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