Anyone get away from this hand in the $700k?

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Fish

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pokerstars Game #3875107697: Tournament #18430351, Hold'em No Limit - Level VII (100/200) - 2006/02/05 - 18:09:11 (ET)
Table '18430351 14' Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: dthorne04 (2360 in chips)
Seat 2: vessarn (5480 in chips)
Seat 3: Lisahh (3140 in chips)
Seat 4: Diamondjack7 (15385 in chips)
Seat 5: montjeu (9045 in chips)
Seat 6: ChipFish (7355 in chips)
Seat 7: Chet (2415 in chips)
Seat 8: itsthepizza (2300 in chips)
Seat 9: GeVance (5982 in chips)
dthorne04: posts the ante 25
vessarn: posts the ante 25
Lisahh: posts the ante 25
Diamondjack7: posts the ante 25
montjeu: posts the ante 25
ChipFish: posts the ante 25

Chet: posts the ante 25
itsthepizza: posts the ante 25
GeVance: posts the ante 25
montjeu: posts small blind 100
ChipFish: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ChipFish [4c 8c]
Chet: folds
itsthepizza: folds
GeVance: folds
dthorne04: folds
vessarn: folds
Lisahh: folds
Diamondjack7: folds
montjeu: calls 100
ChipFish: checks
*** FLOP *** [6d 5d Js]
montjeu: checks
ChipFish: checks
*** TURN *** [6d 5d Js] [7d]
montjeu: bets 600
ChipFish: calls 600
*** RIVER *** [6d 5d Js 7d] [3s]
montjeu: bets 1600
ChipFish: calls 1600
*** SHOW DOWN ***
montjeu: shows [8d 9s] (a straight, Five to Nine)
ChipFish: shows [4c 8c] (a straight, Four to Eight)
montjeu collected 5025 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 5025 | Rake 0
Board [6d 5d Js 7d 3s]
Seat 1: dthorne04 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: vessarn folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: Lisahh folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: Diamondjack7 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: montjeu (small blind) showed [8d 9s] and won (5025) with a straight, Five to Nine
Seat 6: ChipFish (big blind) showed [4c 8c] and lost with a straight, Four to Eight
Seat 7: Chet folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: itsthepizza folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: GeVance folded before Flop (didn't bet)
 
Dorkus Malorkus

Dorkus Malorkus

HELLO INTERNET
You lost about as little as possible there. I probably raise the turn, then hate myself and fold when he likely pushes.
 
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Fish

Rock Star
On a side note, is there a Hand convertor here, or do you prefer to just read the HH's like I posted?
 
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chicubs1616

Guest
You played this fine.

Calling down here is fine, since there is a possible flush on board as well. Nice play, too bad with the result.
 
JeeDub84

JeeDub84

Visionary
i think that maybe a bet on the flop of about the size of the pot could have maybe pushed him oaff gut shot straight draw. if he called you may have lost another 2 bets but you could have taken the pot before you were beat.
 
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chicubs1616

Guest
i think that maybe a bet on the flop of about the size of the pot could have maybe pushed him oaff gut shot straight draw. if he called you may have lost another 2 bets but you could have taken the pot before you were beat.

This is results oriented thinking. Betting 600 here to try and win this pot would be stupid. Yes, in this instance it may have won the pot. However, most of the time this is just a waste of chips. The SB will be calling if he hit any part of that flop (which is dangerous given theres a flush draw and straight draw possibilites galore). There is no need to make this pot larger with just a gutshot yourself. Just checking and calling is the way to keep this pot small with some dangerous cards out there. (flush card on turn)
 
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Fish

Rock Star
JeeDub84 said:
i think that maybe a bet on the flop of about the size of the pot could have maybe pushed him oaff gut shot straight draw. if he called you may have lost another 2 bets but you could have taken the pot before you were beat.
I have to agree with ChiCubs here...
The last thing I want to do is start betting on a 3 card draw to a straight....
I'm not willing to make this pot any bigger than it has to be with my holding.
 
JeeDub84

JeeDub84

Visionary
I know that you will be building the pot up, but aggression is the way of winning. If you were in the spot of Monteju could you call a 600-800 bet with a gutshot straight draw. If you played the pot odds then you just couldnt call a pot sized bet.
 
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Fish

Rock Star
JeeDub84 said:
I know that you will be building the pot up, but aggression is the way of winning. If you were in the spot of Monteju could you call a 600-800 bet with a gutshot straight draw. If you played the pot odds then you just couldnt call a pot sized bet.
Yes, aggression is one way of winning... and quite an important way too....
But 4-8s?
This was neither the time, nor the place for an out and out bluff on the flop.
 
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