Another AK situation; 4-bet AIPF in $4/180

[ChuckTs]

Pokerstars Game (?) Tournament #65386448, $4.00+$0.40 Hold'em No Limit - Level III (25/50) - 2007/10/27 - 18:37:29 (ET)
Table '65386448 18' 9-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: yoni34 (760 in chips)
Seat 2: tx75248 (3370 in chips)
Seat 3: kuk1977 (2395 in chips)
Seat 4: Capt Ryry (1405 in chips)
Seat 5: Hero (2885 in chips)
Seat 6: maniwin (1305 in chips)
Seat 7: lefevrec74 (2485 in chips)
Seat 8: Vogely (2220 in chips)
Seat 9: Xmachine888 (1720 in chips)
lefevrec74: posts small blind 25
Vogely: posts big blind 50

Holecards:
Dealt to Hero [

]
Xmachine888: folds
yoni34: folds
tx75248: folds
kuk1977: raises 100 to 150
Capt Ryry: folds
Hero : raises 300 to 450
maniwin: folds
lefevrec74: folds
Vogely: calls 400
kuk1977: raises 1945 to 2395 and is all-in
Hero :

Villain is 54/12/1 and hasn't done anything this crazy. He has been somewhat aggressive though, betting when checked to etc.

I've been somewhat tag on this table but have shown some aggression and backed down which leads me to believe he could be making a move.

Cold caller is 42/4/3.8 and hasn't shown down much.

 

[tosborn]

Both are awfully LAG. How many hands?

We have to get away from this though. A cold caller after a raise and reraise. And then a four bet. Between the two I think we have to give one of them credit for QQ+ don't we?

At best we are racing with overcards.

Let it go, but, make sure that you take note of this. I would play back at "Four Bet Villain" pretty light in the near future.

 

[ChuckTs]

not much goin on in this thread, so I'll post results.

I decided to push, and probably wrongfully so. I overplay AK a lot of the time, but with hands like this it's easy to see why:

pokerstars GAME #12884204481: TOURNAMENT #65386448, $4.00+$0.40 HOLD'EM NO LIMIT - LEVEL III (25/50) - 2007/10/27 - 18:37:29 (ET)
Table '65386448 18' 9-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: yoni34 (760 in chips)
Seat 2: tx75248 (3370 in chips)
Seat 3: kuk1977 (2395 in chips)
Seat 4: Capt Ryry (1405 in chips)
Seat 5: ChuckTs (2885 in chips)
Seat 6: maniwin (1305 in chips)
Seat 7: lefevrec74 (2485 in chips)
Seat 8: Vogely (2220 in chips)
Seat 9: Xmachine888 (1720 in chips)
lefevrec74: posts small blind 25
Vogely: posts big blind 50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ChuckTs [As Kd]
Xmachine888: folds
yoni34: folds
tx75248: folds
kuk1977: raises 100 to 150
Capt Ryry: folds
ChuckTs: raises 300 to 450
maniwin: folds
lefevrec74: folds
Vogely: calls 400
kuk1977: raises 1945 to 2395 and is all-in
ChuckTs: raises 490 to 2885 and is all-in
Vogely: folds
*** FLOP *** [9c Jh 3c]
*** TURN *** [9c Jh 3c] [2s]
*** RIVER *** [9c Jh 3c 2s] [8h]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
kuk1977: shows [Tc Ah] (high card Ace)
ChuckTs: shows [As Kd] (high card Ace - King kicker)
ChuckTs collected 5265 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 5265 | Rake 0
Board [9c Jh 3c 2s 8h]
Seat 1: yoni34 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: tx75248 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: kuk1977 showed [Tc Ah] and lost with high card Ace
Seat 4: Capt Ryry folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: ChuckTs showed [As Kd] and won (5265) with high card Ace
Seat 6: maniwin (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: lefevrec74 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 8: Vogely (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 9: Xmachine888 folded before Flop (didn't bet)

 

[Dorkus Malorkus]

This is one of those "Does he do this with AQ?" type hands.

If you think the pusher is capable of 4-bet shoving AQ here then the dead money makes this a pretty clear overshove (I'm not at all concerned about Vogely here). If not, then we should fold.

Given what we know about villain, I like the shove.