AKo in SB with 19 people left in $1 45 SNG

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everyone has tightened up pretty much hanging out until the tables merge and not taking alot of risks. i went down to the shortstack after my AA got cracked by a guy pushing with 22 and hit a 2 on the river, then i doubled up twice, once with A2 sooooted and rivered the flush and 9 10 soooted and flopped the straight. so ive got lucky twice and everyone is probably pretty tired of me by now

pokerstars Game #10898017143: Tournament #55247297, $1.00+$0.20 Hold'em
No Limit - Level VI (100/200) - 2007/07/12 - 09:10:11 (ET)
Table '55247297 5' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 2: peulino (1385 in chips)
Seat 3: brutus34 (4380 in chips)
Seat 5: totic (4225 in chips)
Seat 6: big_jono (4645 in chips)
Seat 7: weissianer (1760 in chips)
Seat 8: zerooo81 (4390 in chips)
Seat 9: Devilish1984 (3675 in chips)
brutus53: posts small blind 100
totic: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to brutus34 [Kd As]
big_jono: folds
weissianer: folds
zerooo81: calls 200
Devilish1984: calls 200
peulino: folds
brutus34: :confused: how much do you raise here
 
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IMO, I would just call. You have a decent chip stack and AK is a tough hand to play out of position. If people are getting tired of you, they will call you.

If you are trying to get it down to 1 person and hope to flop something, I'd bump it to 600 or 700. If you are trying to just take the blinds, bump it to 1K.
 
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Calling's an option; we'll get in with a very disguised hand and if we flop a monster, people will never respect it. Especially considering you've been playing a lot of hands lately.

The thing is that you've got so much equity in this pot here, though. Playing OOP shouldn't scare you out of raising here. I pop it up to like 1K and see what they do. Anything less is just a pot-sweetener. I'll be prepared to call a push.
 
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With a hand like that and your position raise to a 1000. Protect your blind. They should fold to you. And if you do get a caller, AK is a good hand PF. See what you get on the flop.
 
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i havent necessarily been playing alot of hands just the ones i played got lucky. the A2 was pretty much desperation move with the blinds coming close. the 8 9 hand i limped and a guy raised 2x the bb and the bb called so it gave me pretty goods odds to call and got lucky and flopped 10 J Q i checked to the mini raiser ( the same guy i sucked out the flush on) and he pushes with KQ. they were pretty recent hands so i dont know for sure but can feel that i got the X on my head and someone would try to get me

i screwed it up already.....

PokerStars Game #10898017143: Tournament #55247297, $1.00+$0.20 Hold'em
No Limit - Level VI (100/200) - 2007/07/12 - 09:10:11 (ET)
Table '55247297 5' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 2: peulino (1385 in chips)
Seat 3: brutus53 (4380 in chips)
Seat 5: totic (4225 in chips)
Seat 6: big_jono (4645 in chips)
Seat 7: weissianer (1760 in chips)
Seat 8: zerooo81 (4390 in chips)
Seat 9: Devilish1984 (3675 in chips)
brutus53: posts small blind 100
totic: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to brutus53 [Kd As]
big_jono: folds
weissianer: folds
zerooo81: calls 200
Devilish1984: calls 200
peulino: folds
brutus53: raises 600 to 800
totic: folds
zerooo81: calls 600
Devilish1984: folds
*** FLOP *** [Ts Tc 3s] now what do i do?
 
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Great result; we've gotten it heads-up. Pretty good spot for a c-bet too. It's unlikely to have hit him; we can toss out ~1000 chips and expect to take it down most of the time.

If we get called or pushed, we have to shut down.
 
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I agree. It'd be a tough lay down though, committing almost half the stack and AK may be good.
 
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I like Chucks play here, but with half your chips in the pot, you are close to committed to the hand.

At that stage in the contest, just flat calling PF-OOP with the AK would have given you the opportunity to make a better decision post flop, and be up 800 chips higher to start with.

Any of the three reasonable plays offers interesting play.
1- call
2 raise to ~1000
3 shove PF.

All in PF? I would expect to lose Devilish at that point, he would be put to the test. Zero has you covered, but would have to consider that he doesn't really. If he loses, he is down to 10 chips, effectively dead.

But now the flop has come, and zero makes a play. You really only have 2 reasonable options here. Fold or raise. A call is chasing, and not worth it, a pair of deuces beats you here. It is unlikely at this stage that anyone is gambling with JT or T9, and also unlikely to be calling with 33, or any other holding containing a 3.
Raise to 1500-2000. Damned if you do, damned if you don't.

This is where the POKER begins......
 
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PokerStars Game #10898017143: Tournament #55247297, $1.00+$0.20 Hold'em
No Limit - Level VI (100/200) - 2007/07/12 - 09:10:11 (ET)
Table '55247297 5' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 2: peulino (1385 in chips)
Seat 3: brutus53 (4380 in chips)
Seat 5: totic (4225 in chips)
Seat 6: big_jono (4645 in chips)
Seat 7: weissianer (1760 in chips)
Seat 8: zerooo81 (4390 in chips)
Seat 9: Devilish1984 (3675 in chips)
brutus53: posts small blind 100
totic: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to brutus53 [Kd As]
big_jono: folds
weissianer: folds
zerooo81: calls 200
Devilish1984: calls 200
peulino: folds
brutus53: raises 600 to 800
totic: folds
zerooo81: calls 600
Devilish1984: folds
*** FLOP *** [Ts Tc 3s]
brutus53: bets 800 ...think i screwed up again right here
zerooo81: calls 800
*** TURN *** [Ts Tc 3s] [Ac]...theres my ace...now what do i do with it though?
 
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hopefully another ace doesnt come out cause then you would have a full boat and have to fold.
(sorry but it had to be said) lol
 
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Well it looks like he's either got a middle pair, he's slowplaying the T or he's drawing to the flush.

hmm...I think checking here might be best. Induce action from a medium/small pair, and save chips vs a ten.
 
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hopefully another ace doesnt come out cause then you would have a full boat and have to fold.
(sorry but it had to be said) lol

yeah probably the Ace of spades knowing my luck and hit his flush


no wait, full houses beat flushes and that would be the perfect card, see im catching on :p
 
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PokerStars Game #10898017143: Tournament #55247297, $1.00+$0.20 Hold'em
No Limit - Level VI (100/200) - 2007/07/12 - 09:10:11 (ET)
Table '55247297 5' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 2: peulino (1385 in chips)
Seat 3: brutus53 (4380 in chips)
Seat 5: totic (4225 in chips)
Seat 6: big_jono (4645 in chips)
Seat 7: weissianer (1760 in chips)
Seat 8: zerooo81 (4390 in chips)
Seat 9: Devilish1984 (3675 in chips)
brutus53: posts small blind 100
totic: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to brutus53 [Kd As]
big_jono: folds
weissianer: folds
zerooo81: calls 200
Devilish1984: calls 200
peulino: folds
brutus53: raises 600 to 800
totic: folds
zerooo81: calls 600
Devilish1984: folds
*** FLOP *** [Ts Tc 3s]
brutus53: bets 800
zerooo81: calls 800
*** TURN *** [Ts Tc 3s] [Ac]
brutus53: bets 800 dont ask, i dont know why. guessing he had nothing and wanted to just look like a continuation bet hoping to keep him in the pot
zerooo81: raises 1990 to 2790 and is all-in .....hey you werent spose to do that to me:frown:, now what?
brutus53: ???
 
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ive lost the hand history but i called the push and he flips over 8 10 diamonds, figured i screwed up all the way through this hand, just didnt know which mistake was the biggest of if they were all huge mistakes. thanks for the help
 
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For me the biggest thing was preflop. And the problem with preflop is that it can lead to other complications.

With 2 preflop limpers, and OOP, I think if you're going to raise, it's got to be bigger. But, this is $1, which I find to be prime limp/call territory, meaning even if you raised to 1,600 someone who limped might still call with a marginal hand.

In this situation, I'd have been more likely to call preflop. But take my opinion with some hesitation, as dealing with limp/callers is a big issue for me at the moment.
 
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Like chuck said, if you raise, you gotta c-bet this flop and shut down to a call or a raise. We're behind most of the time when called on this board since there's no draw and we have shown strength pre-flop and on the flop. Even a lowly 3 has us drawing to 8 outs (and maybe less, opponent could hold A3 and then it is a split if we spike our A).

Since the table has tightened up, and this is a 1$ tourney, I don't expect people to change gears and try to play with your head. Respect the call, and check/fold on turn. You'll still have some chips left and live to fight another day.

PF, the cold-call was the worse thing that could happen (since we have no clue what he holds) and villain got lucky. I maybe would've raised more or just limped hoping to catch since we already have two limpers and the BB is likely to check or try to steal all the dead money, in wich case you just shove/resteal and figure you have the best hand PF.
 
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What 8 outs, man I'm tired! 6 outs. (see idiotic post above for explanation)
 
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i would have played his hand exactly as he did and your hand i would have probly played the same except that when he called the flop bet into a pr on board i would have thought uh oh and folded to the all in reraise on the turn with only top pr top kr, im very leery when there's a pr on board that i have no part of ,esp. if they're 10 thru ace , i wont go crazy if i hit anything under full house without feeling i have a good read.
 
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so

theres two ways of playing this for me either just calling and seeing the flop (out of position totally sucks)
or just shoving this hand preflop. heres my reasoning behind this.

-you have a crazy image with A2o and 910 hand so this is perfect. players will think your shoving light and overcall
with weak holdings.(plus at the $1 donkaments theyll prolly call anyway) bottom line is youve set them up for when
you have a big hand and here it is.

-theres almost 4 big blinds on the table and by just taking this down preflop you increase your stack by almost 20%

-out of position..ak is obviously a hand we want to play. as it gets late into the game position becomes as important as
the cards you are holding.id rather have positon tham mid pair...

-perfect time for a squeeze..better this than 910s on the button shheeeet..
 
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