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Steveg1976
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Silver Level
Depends, are you likely to be called or will you just pick up the binds? Generally speaking I laugh when people do this early because they usually only get the blinds. Of course there are some fools at the low limits that will call but over all, shoving AA's early is a rookie move.
pimpinalovabkln
Enthusiast
Silver Level
Going all in on the first hand might give you some chips earlly in the tournament but those chips wont last because you will go on tilt because of your big pot and think you can take anyone down and might call more flops then usual busting you out of the tourney.
KingQuadDaddy
Visionary
Silver Level
AA on the first level do i go all-in or slow play
and pray they don't get crack , cause its so early in the game
level 1 , i want to get the best bang for my buck.
First hand in a Freeroll......You have to get your money in with the best hand though......
full tilt poker Game #7533790423: Early Double Satellite (57209110), Table 261 - 15/30 - No Limit Hold'em - 12:41:00 ET - 2008/08/06
Seat 1: ctingen (1,500)
Seat 2: Soccerbird91 (1,500)
Seat 3: Empty Bank1 (1,500)
Seat 4: odyssey_68 (1,500)
Seat 5: dwsnider (1,500)
Seat 6: Pokers2Fun (1,500)
Seat 7: chloelane1 (1,500)
Seat 8: brix211 (1,500)
Seat 9: Greyland (1,500)
ctingen posts the small blind of 15
Soccerbird91 posts the big blind of 30
The button is in seat #9
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Pokers2Fun [Ah Ac]
Empty Bank1 has 15 seconds left to act
Empty Bank1 is sitting out
Empty Bank1 has timed out
Empty Bank1 folds
odyssey_68 has 15 seconds left to act
odyssey_68 is sitting out
odyssey_68 has timed out
odyssey_68 folds
dwsnider calls 30
Pokers2Fun has 15 seconds left to act
Pokers2Fun raises to 1,500, and is all in
chloelane1 folds
brix211 calls 1,500, and is all in
Greyland folds
ctingen folds
Soccerbird91 has 15 seconds left to act
Soccerbird91 calls 1,470, and is all in
dwsnider calls 1,470, and is all in
Pokers2Fun shows [Ah Ac]
brix211 shows [Ad As]
Soccerbird91 shows [Kh 4d]
dwsnider shows [8h Th]
*** FLOP *** [Jd 2h 7h]
*** TURN *** [Jd 2h 7h] [Qh]
*** RIVER *** [Jd 2h 7h Qh] [4s]
Pokers2Fun shows a pair of Aces
brix211 shows a pair of Aces
Soccerbird91 shows a pair of Fours
dwsnider shows a flush, Queen high
dwsnider wins the pot (6,015) with a flush, Queen high
brix211 stands up
Pokers2Fun stands up
Soccerbird91 stands up
fun2bwith77 sits down
fun2bwith77 adds 1,500
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 6,015 | Rake 0
Board: [Jd 2h 7h Qh 4s]
Seat 1: ctingen (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 2: Soccerbird91 (big blind) showed [Kh 4d] and lost with a pair of Fours
Seat 3: Empty Bank1 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 4: odyssey_68 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 5: dwsnider showed [8h Th] and won (6,015) with a flush, Queen high
Seat 6: Pokers2Fun showed [Ah Ac] and lost with a pair of Aces
Seat 7: chloelane1 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 8: brix211 showed [Ad As] and lost with a pair of Aces
Seat 9: Greyland (button) didn't bet (folded)
orangecat
Enthusiast
Silver Level
Dont slow play aces ever!! They are just a pair! I always play them aggressively. Wich to me is bet at least 5 bb preflop if not more. I would much rather get money in preflop and if the board texture looks bad for my aces I can back it off and fold if I have to. I would never put may aces all in anyhow because I would like to get maximum equity from them if I hit.
P>S Never go all in preflop in the first LVL. Thats a donk move
P>S Never go all in preflop in the first LVL. Thats a donk move
Steveg1976
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Silver Level
The key word is underlined to explain that entire hand.
Steveg1976
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Silver Level
The point was not to criticize you but to emaphasize there is a difference between freerolls and tournaments people actually pay to get in. That shove most of the time in real money tournament will only net you 45 chips.
davejs1671@yahoo.com
Enthusiast
Silver Level
My thinking is this, I try to not get all in just incase I if do loose I am still in the game. I would rather allow myself the oportunity to continue play if I make a mistake instead of my first mistake being my last. If I have a decision to call and all in with AA then I go with whatever information I have on the player at this point in the game and decide what I feel is best depending on the board.
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CfPoker
Rock Star
Silver Level
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EvertonYorkie
Rising Star
Bronze Level
I think it all depends--Are you in a MTT-SnG-Real Money Ring Game-WHAT?? 6 or 10 player single table? What??
The hand is in the TOURNAMENT hand analysis section.
OP - It depends entirely on situation, but I never open-shove aces pre-flop unless i have <15BBs.
daguksta
Enthusiast
Silver Level
I never slow play aces, I always push as much as possible, like 4xBB, if someone reraises me, I go all in. If they call, then after looking at the flop, I reraise 50%-75% of the flop, or if they raise, go all in. This strategy seems to work most of the time. However, there are instance where you can get completely blind sided. For example, I had A A in a ring game, flop comes out A 9 4, and I'm pretty much partying right now and then another 9, and the other guy goes all in, I celebrated and called...he flips over 9 9.....so crazy, lol.
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yoru72
Rock Star
Bronze Level
I tried different approachs to deal with that (of course I prefer deal with AA that with 27o), and the only thing I have in mind when I have pockets As is try to see the flop with only one or two players.
I prefer only get the blinds that have a mini-raise call show with 6 players seeing the flop.
I prefer only get the blinds that have a mini-raise call show with 6 players seeing the flop.
bwrobbel
Enthusiast
Silver Level
You don't push all-in. Milk it slowly. I've lost with probably just about as many times as I've won with them. It's a risk to just shove all your chips in and hope for another ace. I mean what you've got is a pair of aces. A lot can beat that. With 1500 chips I'd raise to 150-200 preflop and play from there.
Pothole
Legend
Silver Level
I agree, and I don't mean slow play, make a good raise and see the flop, frw's love a 1st hand all in, it means you have 2 high cards min, if they have suited connectors or just low cards they will call , if a rainbow unconnected flop comes out, then shove, in the OP, the 2 AA holders should have split it right there, but then again a freeroll donk on a flush draw would prolly call, at least it gives you a chance to let the hand go, knowing he had to be on a draw, or maybe hit trips. On the OP flop, villain has a flush draw and a gutshot draw, you have a pr. Remember the saying AA wins lots of small pots, and loses lots of big ones.
dufferdevon
Legend
Silver Level
This is how you play aces in stage one
pokerstars Game #19556310438: Tournament #101662570, $1.00+$0.20 Hold'em No Limit - Level I (10/20) - 2008/08/12 - 07:02:57 (ET)
Table '101662570 1' 9-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: edu06 (1500 in chips)
Seat 2: CHIP HU$TLER (1490 in chips)
Seat 3: Mcsole (750 in chips)
Seat 4: djgolfcan (1480 in chips)
Seat 5: sebastianw5 (1500 in chips)
Seat 6: Judy29 (1500 in chips)
Seat 7: hollabrrack (2250 in chips)
Seat 8: butch455 (1530 in chips)
Seat 9: Kiwialan (1500 in chips)
djgolfcan: posts small blind 10
sebastianw5: posts big blind 20
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to djgolfcan [Ah Ac]
Judy29: folds
hollabrrack: raises 60 to 80
butch455: folds
Kiwialan: folds
edu06: folds
CHIP HU$TLER: folds
Mcsole: folds
djgolfcan: raises 120 to 200
sebastianw5: folds
hollabrrack: calls 120
*** FLOP *** [Kc 6d 4h]
djgolfcan: bets 200
hollabrrack: calls 200
*** TURN *** [Kc 6d 4h] [8s]
djgolfcan: bets 320
hollabrrack: calls 320
*** RIVER *** [Kc 6d 4h 8s] [Ad]
djgolfcan: bets 300
hollabrrack: calls 300
*** SHOW DOWN ***
djgolfcan: shows [Ah Ac] (three of a kind, Aces)
hollabrrack: mucks hand
djgolfcan collected 2060 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 2060 | Rake 0
Board [Kc 6d 4h 8s Ad]
Seat 1: edu06 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: CHIP HU$TLER folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: Mcsole (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: djgolfcan (small blind) showed [Ah Ac] and won (2060) with three of a kind, Aces
Seat 5: sebastianw5 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: Judy29 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: hollabrrack mucked [Td Ts]
Seat 8: butch455 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: Kiwialan folded before Flop (didn't bet)
pokerstars Game #19556310438: Tournament #101662570, $1.00+$0.20 Hold'em No Limit - Level I (10/20) - 2008/08/12 - 07:02:57 (ET)
Table '101662570 1' 9-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: edu06 (1500 in chips)
Seat 2: CHIP HU$TLER (1490 in chips)
Seat 3: Mcsole (750 in chips)
Seat 4: djgolfcan (1480 in chips)
Seat 5: sebastianw5 (1500 in chips)
Seat 6: Judy29 (1500 in chips)
Seat 7: hollabrrack (2250 in chips)
Seat 8: butch455 (1530 in chips)
Seat 9: Kiwialan (1500 in chips)
djgolfcan: posts small blind 10
sebastianw5: posts big blind 20
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to djgolfcan [Ah Ac]
Judy29: folds
hollabrrack: raises 60 to 80
butch455: folds
Kiwialan: folds
edu06: folds
CHIP HU$TLER: folds
Mcsole: folds
djgolfcan: raises 120 to 200
sebastianw5: folds
hollabrrack: calls 120
*** FLOP *** [Kc 6d 4h]
djgolfcan: bets 200
hollabrrack: calls 200
*** TURN *** [Kc 6d 4h] [8s]
djgolfcan: bets 320
hollabrrack: calls 320
*** RIVER *** [Kc 6d 4h 8s] [Ad]
djgolfcan: bets 300
hollabrrack: calls 300
*** SHOW DOWN ***
djgolfcan: shows [Ah Ac] (three of a kind, Aces)
hollabrrack: mucks hand
djgolfcan collected 2060 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 2060 | Rake 0
Board [Kc 6d 4h 8s Ad]
Seat 1: edu06 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: CHIP HU$TLER folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: Mcsole (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: djgolfcan (small blind) showed [Ah Ac] and won (2060) with three of a kind, Aces
Seat 5: sebastianw5 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: Judy29 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: hollabrrack mucked [Td Ts]
Seat 8: butch455 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: Kiwialan folded before Flop (didn't bet)
z28_RoadRage
Road Warrior
Silver Level
My concern with A’s on first level action is starting Stack Size.
poker stars- 1,500 20/40 4x raise = 160 or approx 10% of stack. (may think a bit before calling)
party poker- 3,000 20/40 4x raise = 160 or approx 5% of stack. (worth seeing a flop)
I will normally donk off a few early chips to see cheap flops, so if I miss the flop, oh well.
What I’m getting at is, a lot of players will burn a few chips early, so if I have Aces first hand, I’m going to make you pay 15 to 20% of your stack to see the flop.
poker stars- 1,500 20/40 4x raise = 160 or approx 10% of stack. (may think a bit before calling)
party poker- 3,000 20/40 4x raise = 160 or approx 5% of stack. (worth seeing a flop)
I will normally donk off a few early chips to see cheap flops, so if I miss the flop, oh well.
What I’m getting at is, a lot of players will burn a few chips early, so if I have Aces first hand, I’m going to make you pay 15 to 20% of your stack to see the flop.
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EvertonYorkie
Rising Star
Bronze Level
River bet is too small. Gotta be a push with no draws completed and the pot size. He calls more often than he folds making it +EV.
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