AA Do not think I could or should have played it different

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We have a tourney cooming up Friday on FullTilt so figured I better get reused to the software and wouldn't you know it not even on there for 5 minutes and WHAMO!
fulltiltpoker Game #273439544: Table Count Diero - $0.10/$0.25 - No Limit Hold'em - 1:31:31 ET - 2005/11/01
harbak: tool.
Seat 2: NITEOWL46224 ($8.65)
Seat 3: fischinthelake ($14.90)
Seat 5: chadmd80 ($6.75)
Seat 6: harbak ($58.75)
Seat 9: Tebjumpper ($10)
Tebjumpper has 5 seconds left to act
Tebjumpper posts the big blind of $0.25
The button is in seat #6
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to NITEOWL46224 [Ah Ac]
NITEOWL46224 raises to $0.75
fischinthelake calls $0.75
chadmd80 folds
harbak folds
Tebjumpper folds
*** FLOP *** [2h Qd 7d]
NITEOWL46224 bets $1.75
fischinthelake calls $1.75
*** TURN *** [2h Qd 7d] [Jh]
NITEOWL46224 bets $6.15, and is all in
ArtLo sits down
fischinthelake calls $6.15
NITEOWL46224 shows [Ah Ac]
fischinthelake shows [Td 9d]
*** RIVER *** [2h Qd 7d Jh] [Kc]
NITEOWL46224 shows a pair of Aces
fischinthelake shows a straight, King high
fischinthelake wins the pot ($16.70) with a straight, King high
ArtLo adds $5
NITEOWL46224 is sitting out
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $17.55 | Rake $0.85
Board: [2h Qd 7d Jh Kc]
Seat 2: NITEOWL46224 showed [Ah Ac] and lost with a pair of Aces
Seat 3: fischinthelake showed [Td 9d] and won ($16.70) with a straight, King high
Seat 5: chadmd80 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 6: harbak (button) didn't bet (folded)
Seat 9: Tebjumpper (big blind) folded before the Flop
 
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No, you played it right. You bet strong throughout. The other player decided to invest a good hunk of their stack to chasing the straight and got lucky on the river. If anything, I might have raised more pre-flop.
 
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not much you could have done,a bigger pre flop raise may have got you the blinds but who wants to win cents with those cards.After that flop i would have went all in i guess the turn just gave him too many options to fold but the end result would probably been the same.
 
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He made a bad call on the flop getting only 2:1 odds to hit his flush draw. However he picked up an open-ended straight draw on the turn giving him 15 total outs (9 remaining diamonds and 3 8's and 3 K's) He had a 32% chance of hitting on the river and he is getting 3.06:1 odds for hitting his hand. He had 11.4:6.15 odds to call or 1.85:1 odds to call. He made a mistake and in the long run you will win here more often than you will lose. Shit happens...
 
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Implied odds

He made a bad call on the flop getting only 2:1 odds to hit his flush draw. However he picked up an open-ended straight draw on the turn giving him 15 total outs (9 remaining diamonds and 3 8's and 3 K's) He had a 32% chance of hitting on the river and he is getting 3.06:1 odds for hitting his hand. He had 11.4:6.15 odds to call or 1.85:1 odds to call. He made a mistake and in the long run you will win here more often than you will lose. Shit happens...

Just some questions here:

On his original call he only gets 2:1 on his money, but his chances of making the flush (combining the turn and river) is 1.86:1 or 35%. Not the worst call. Also, if he factors in implied odds then he can justify this price. His call on the turn gives him odds of 2.07:1, not 3.06:1. So again, not a great call but not the biggest mistake ever either.

Is this the correct way to figure in implied odds? If it is, can't implied odds just be used as a justification for chasing longshots?
 
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If you factor in "implied" odds in NL which is what you think you will win you can justify just about any call in the heat of battle. Since implied is a "guess". Anyways I like putting hands like this up to illustrate good and bad aspects of poker. Mostly bad though LOL
 
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