AA Do not think I could or should have played it different

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xdmanx007

Legend
We have a tourney cooming up Friday on FullTilt so figured I better get reused to the software and wouldn't you know it not even on there for 5 minutes and WHAMO!
fulltiltpoker Game #273439544: Table Count Diero - $0.10/$0.25 - No Limit Hold'em - 1:31:31 ET - 2005/11/01
harbak: tool.
Seat 2: NITEOWL46224 ($8.65)
Seat 3: fischinthelake ($14.90)
Seat 5: chadmd80 ($6.75)
Seat 6: harbak ($58.75)
Seat 9: Tebjumpper ($10)
Tebjumpper has 5 seconds left to act
Tebjumpper posts the big blind of $0.25
The button is in seat #6
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to NITEOWL46224 [Ah Ac]
NITEOWL46224 raises to $0.75
fischinthelake calls $0.75
chadmd80 folds
harbak folds
Tebjumpper folds
*** FLOP *** [2h Qd 7d]
NITEOWL46224 bets $1.75
fischinthelake calls $1.75
*** TURN *** [2h Qd 7d] [Jh]
NITEOWL46224 bets $6.15, and is all in
ArtLo sits down
fischinthelake calls $6.15
NITEOWL46224 shows [Ah Ac]
fischinthelake shows [Td 9d]
*** RIVER *** [2h Qd 7d Jh] [Kc]
NITEOWL46224 shows a pair of Aces
fischinthelake shows a straight, King high
fischinthelake wins the pot ($16.70) with a straight, King high
ArtLo adds $5
NITEOWL46224 is sitting out
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $17.55 | Rake $0.85
Board: [2h Qd 7d Jh Kc]
Seat 2: NITEOWL46224 showed [Ah Ac] and lost with a pair of Aces
Seat 3: fischinthelake showed [Td 9d] and won ($16.70) with a straight, King high
Seat 5: chadmd80 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 6: harbak (button) didn't bet (folded)
Seat 9: Tebjumpper (big blind) folded before the Flop
 
t1riel

t1riel

Legend
No, you played it right. You bet strong throughout. The other player decided to invest a good hunk of their stack to chasing the straight and got lucky on the river. If anything, I might have raised more pre-flop.
 
gordo30

gordo30

Rock Star
not much you could have done,a bigger pre flop raise may have got you the blinds but who wants to win cents with those cards.After that flop i would have went all in i guess the turn just gave him too many options to fold but the end result would probably been the same.
 
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chicubs1616

Guest
He made a bad call on the flop getting only 2:1 odds to hit his flush draw. However he picked up an open-ended straight draw on the turn giving him 15 total outs (9 remaining diamonds and 3 8's and 3 K's) He had a 32% chance of hitting on the river and he is getting 3.06:1 odds for hitting his hand. He had 11.4:6.15 odds to call or 1.85:1 odds to call. He made a mistake and in the long run you will win here more often than you will lose. Shit happens...
 
Schatzdog

Schatzdog

Visionary
Implied odds

He made a bad call on the flop getting only 2:1 odds to hit his flush draw. However he picked up an open-ended straight draw on the turn giving him 15 total outs (9 remaining diamonds and 3 8's and 3 K's) He had a 32% chance of hitting on the river and he is getting 3.06:1 odds for hitting his hand. He had 11.4:6.15 odds to call or 1.85:1 odds to call. He made a mistake and in the long run you will win here more often than you will lose. Shit happens...

Just some questions here:

On his original call he only gets 2:1 on his money, but his chances of making the flush (combining the turn and river) is 1.86:1 or 35%. Not the worst call. Also, if he factors in implied odds then he can justify this price. His call on the turn gives him odds of 2.07:1, not 3.06:1. So again, not a great call but not the biggest mistake ever either.

Is this the correct way to figure in implied odds? If it is, can't implied odds just be used as a justification for chasing longshots?
 
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xdmanx007

Legend
If you factor in "implied" odds in NL which is what you think you will win you can justify just about any call in the heat of battle. Since implied is a "guess". Anyways I like putting hands like this up to illustrate good and bad aspects of poker. Mostly bad though LOL
 
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