A8 on monocolor A8x high flop facing check raise shove

[BelgoSuisse]

Should I fold/raise preflop? Should I call the check raise?

Stacks:
* SB with 1795
* BB with 1170
* UTG with 1595
* MP1 with 1885
* MP2 with 2820
* CO with 1310
* BTN with 2925

Blinds: 40/80
Site: full tilt poker
* * Dealt to BTN:A♦ 8♦
* * Sklansky group 5
Preflop:
* * 2 players fold.
* * MP2 raises to 222
* * 1 players fold.
* * Hero calls [222]
* * 2 players folded.
* * Total folds this street: 5
* * Potsize: 564
Flop:
* * 7♠ 8♠ A♠
* * MP2 checks
* * Hero bets [480]
* * 2 players fold.
* * MP2 raises to 2,598, and is all in
* * Hero calls [2,118]


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[benevg]

i'd call this every day, twice on some days. put him on AK, possibly with one spade. the other option would be a set, but that would be too bad.

i guess you lost the hand to post it here? oh well.

 

[Jillychemung]

I call this too. Doubt that a made flush would overbet like this since it would be pretty hard to put you on 2P and if he does have the flush you still have 4 outs.

 

[BelgoSuisse]

i'd call this every day, twice on some days. put him on AK, possibly with one spade. the other option would be a set, but that would be too bad.

i guess you lost the hand to post it here? oh well.

Wow, you're good, benevg. He did have AK with the king of spade. Turn was a K and I lost.

Anyway, I think the call was a good one too (I was 55% to win), but I a have problem with the overall play as I ended coin fliping at a stage of the SNG where I was in no way needing to, being chipleader. Of course if I win the coinflip I'm a huge chipleader, but I do wonder if folding preflop would not have been wiser. No need to fight the 2nd biggest stack at this stage.

 

[Jillychemung]

Missed that you called the raise preflop w/ A8s, I'd agree that a fold would have been better here.

 

[F Paulsson]

I'm not thrilled about your preflop call. The stacks aren't deep enough (only about 40BB, or so?) to make the suitedness of your hand worth it, and against a raiser, you're often dominated.

 

[dweezel]

I'm guessing he had an ace and the King of spades. Top pair and the nut flush draw. I would have folded to his overbet .... but thats just me. Flopping two pair always seems to make my chips move to another part of the table after the river.

 

[dweezel]

answer came out before I hit the button .....Sorry

 

[benevg]

oh, i totally forgot to address the first part of the questions... really, calling pre-flop wasn't the best line out there; with 7 people still in the SnG, you could totally afford to fold and wait for a better time. as FP said, you are dominated a little too often. :-/

but after the flop, i think nobody can blame you for what you did.

 

[SeanyJ]

I agree that this is a fold preflop but as played I"m stacking off on that flop pretty much all of the time unless I have some kind of sick read on the guy.

 

[KyleJRM]

If you can't stack off on that flop, you shouldn't play it pre-flop.