$8.80 NLHE MTT: Did I Play This Okay? AT pre from MP

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doomasiggy

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poker stars $8.00+$0.80 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t40/t80 Blinds - 9 players - View hand 1692176
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MP2: t4590 57.38 BBs
CO: t4527 56.59 BBs
BTN: t9831 122.89 BBs
SB: t9260 115.75 BBs
BB: t10030 125.38 BBs
UTG: t5000 62.50 BBs
UTG+1: t4410 55.12 BBs
UTG+2: t7696 96.20 BBs
Hero (MP1): t4465 55.81 BBs

Pre Flop: (t120) Hero is MP1 with A
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T
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1 fold, UTG+1 calls t80, Hero raises to t220, 1 fold, 1 fold, CO calls t220, 3 folds UTG+1 calls t160

Flop: (t780) T
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J
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Q
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(3 players)
UTG+1 checks, Hero checks, CO bets t400, Hero calls t400, UTG+1 calls t400

Turn: (t1980) K
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UTG+1 checks, Hero checks, CO bets t880, Hero calls t880, MP1 raises to t3790 all in, CO raises to t3907 all in, Hero calls t2965 all in
 
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fold preflop, fold the flop.

How come? Isn't AT at the very edge of what we should be betting out with from MP? And when we call the flop don't we have like, 20% equity to hit one of our outs?
 
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Snap fold pre + flop.

20% equity? I have no idea what you're counting as outs but no you don't even have close to that. You have two clean kings which will make a ridiculously transparet hand which you (probably) won't get paid off for. Even the two remaining tens could leave you second best. You're an absolute mile behind OTF. You bink a straight on turn like 2/26 times, just over 4%.
 
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How come? Isn't AT at the very edge of what we should be betting out with from MP? And when we call the flop don't we have like, 20% equity to hit one of our outs?

It's on the other side of the edge with the table full. FIVE players to act after you. You lucked out - Bravo! I will give you this though - you did raise. But in the long run AT is a fold in the middle. 2 callers put you in big trouble. Definitely not worth the 8 BB you put in up until the turn. You had about an 8% chance of that K coming up on the turn (not tomention it is pretty easy take away maybe a half out because of those two callers). It misses and your looking at 2 pair versus A high. And you spent like 15% of your stack on that gamble this early in the tournament?!? That is not very smart poker.

Now looking at the pot odds after the flop you need at least 5-1 to make a call there (and that's pretty thin, I would want 6-1). Your pot odds were just shy of 3-1 (4-1 if you count implied). This alone can make it a bad call.

AT is just a trouble hand and you will find yourself second best more times than not. Bottom line - AT is a leak you should plug.
 
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ATo has decentish hot-cold (all-in pre) equity vs. a limping range but it plays very poorly postflop and you have 5 people behind you.
 
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Alot of your moves shouldnt be so much about your hand as position and the type of player that raises. Use your notes to keep track of ppls raising tendencies or any action that would be usefull to know later....
 
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With a raise in front of you and so many people still to act, you have to fold pre-especially being unsuited. Although I do agree fold>raise>call.

I also play AT way too often, but it definitely is a leak in my game
 
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Something weird about the hand history. Looks like you act after UTG+1 but a different player is UTG+2. Either way, I'm folding ATo almost always here at a full table unless I'm first to enter, it's super tight, and I'm basically stealing from early-ish position. I'm folding it probably near 100% of the time after a limp unless the table is ridiculously weak/passive.

Post flop I'm again folding nearly always. Maybe I'd peel one if it's heads up and I have some kind of a read that this guy c-bets 100% and will give up on the turn without the nuts or something. Seems unlikely, so yeah, +1 for folding the flop.
 
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