$7 NLHE MTT: Straight Draws - a look at equity, odds, and implied odds.

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I gave up on this very quickly. No info on villain. It may have been down to boredom but my gut was regret for fast folding, so I marked the hand for review. Seems like a fold, but marginal, and depends on views about implied odds, with a dry flop it is probably not apt for a bluff either? Maybe that logic has no sense?


PokerStars - 125/250 Ante 20 NL - Holdem - 9 players

UTG: 4,158
UTG+1: 8,805
MP: 9,101
MP+1: 2,295
MP+2: 9,961
CO: 27,237
BTN: 8,773
Hero (SB): 7,366
BB: 7,187

9 players post ante of 20, Hero posts SB 125, BB posts BB 250

Pre Flop: (pot: 555) Hero has 7 6

fold, UTG+1 calls 250, fold, fold, fold, CO calls 250, BTN calls 250, Hero calls 125, BB checks

Flop: (1,430, 5 players) 4 5 5
Hero checks, BB bets 1,500, fold, fold, fold, fold

BB wins 1,430
 
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Why do you think you gave up very quickly? Noone shows strength preflop, BB has any two cards. He may have 5x, A2, K4+, 32, 22, 33. I think BB shows I will not fold. And 76 doesn't matter showdown value, you don't need to fight for every pot. I like fold here, another action is allin but it seems too loose. Implied odds 21bb to 6bb(3.5:1) doesn't look good enough.
 
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Fold turn? Looking back I think Villain's range has been hit very hard. They are 22/16/5 after 100 hands. With 60BB stack is there something different I could on flop or turn to change hand dynamic.


500/1000 Ante 125 NL (8 max) - Holdem - 8 players

UTG+1: 56.81 BB
MP: 23.95 BB
MP+1: 48.35 BB
CO: 30.55 BB
Hero (BTN): 59.25 BB
SB: 72.06 BB
BB: 70.24 BB
UTG: 39.85 BB

8 players post ante of 0.13 BB, SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 2.5 BB) Hero has 7h 8h
UTG raises to 2.5 BB, fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero calls 2.5 BB, SB calls 2 BB, BB calls 1.5 BB

Flop : (11 BB, 4 players) 6h Qc 5c
SB checks, BB checks, UTG bets 3.63 BB, Hero calls 3.63 BB, fold, fold

Turn : (18.26 BB, 2 players) 8d
UTG bets 9 BB, Hero calls 9 BB

River : (36.26 BB, 2 players) Ah
UTG bets 24.6 BB and is all-in, fold

UTG wins 36.26 BB
 
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First hand the fold flop is the only realistic option.
Villain could have a full house or 5x and especially at a full pot bet size you shouldn't continue.

Second hand is a bit of a tricky spot.
We get the implied odds for hitting the straight only if villain goes broke every time on the river.
Unfortunately that isn't going to happen and you will be in tough river spots.
So overall I prefer the fold on the turn.
 
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I gave up on this very quickly. No info on villain. It may have been down to boredom but my gut was regret for fast folding, so I marked the hand for review. Seems like a fold, but marginal, and depends on views about implied odds, with a dry flop it is probably not apt for a bluff either? Maybe that logic has no sense?


PokerStars - 125/250 Ante 20 NL - Holdem - 9 players

UTG: 4,158
UTG+1: 8,805
MP: 9,101
MP+1: 2,295
MP+2: 9,961
CO: 27,237
BTN: 8,773
Hero (SB): 7,366
BB: 7,187

9 players post ante of 20, Hero posts SB 125, BB posts BB 250

Pre Flop: (pot: 555) Hero has 7 6

fold, UTG+1 calls 250, fold, fold, fold, CO calls 250, BTN calls 250, Hero calls 125, BB checks

Flop: (1,430, 5 players) 4 5 5
Hero checks, BB bets 1,500, fold, fold, fold, fold

BB wins 1,430

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So this is a great hand for an exercise in player pool tendency analysis.

What is the range of hands that “Your Player Pool” does not raise preflop but bets pot in this spot?
What does the YPP think will happen when they bet pot here?
Is this a value bet? If so why does YPP expect to get called?
Is this a protection bet? What range of hands protection bets here?
What does YPP do when raised in this spot? Called?
What is the frequency of aggression on your table? In YPP?
What is the frequency of folds to aggression in a spot like this by YPP?
Does YPP bet fold to aggression here with 66 77 88?
Does YPP get stacks in vs trips in spots like this?
Is this bet size indicative of being pot committed?

The answers to these questions gives you the best strategy for your hand in this spot. If you have zero chance of getting a fold after this flop action then you fold 100% of the time.

Hope this helps
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Fold turn? Looking back I think Villain's range has been hit very hard. They are 22/16/5 after 100 hands. With 60BB stack is there something different I could on flop or turn to change hand dynamic.


500/1000 Ante 125 NL (8 max) - Holdem - 8 players

UTG+1: 56.81 BB
MP: 23.95 BB
MP+1: 48.35 BB
CO: 30.55 BB
Hero (BTN): 59.25 BB
SB: 72.06 BB
BB: 70.24 BB
UTG: 39.85 BB

8 players post ante of 0.13 BB, SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 2.5 BB) Hero has 7h 8h
UTG raises to 2.5 BB, fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero calls 2.5 BB, SB calls 2 BB, BB calls 1.5 BB

Flop : (11 BB, 4 players) 6h Qc 5c
SB checks, BB checks, UTG bets 3.63 BB, Hero calls 3.63 BB, fold, fold

Turn : (18.26 BB, 2 players) 8d
UTG bets 9 BB, Hero calls 9 BB

River : (36.26 BB, 2 players) Ah
UTG bets 24.6 BB and is all-in, fold

UTG wins 36.26 BB

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It is important to build a strategy from our first action that is profitable.
What is the UTG range? Do you know how much equity you have vs a tight range?
22% vs big pairs. How do we get enough value from our hand to reward this call?
Why are we calling not 3 betting 8h7h on the button in what maybe a heads up pot?
When calling why would we be ok with giving the blinds odds to call Jh9h Qh9h Kh4h etc?

Aggression is good. Passive play hoping to hit a hand is not. Especially in tournaments.

Hope this helps
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In the first hand the BB is clearly a fun player.
No thinking player would bet pot with trips or FH.
He is most likely to have a marginal made hand that wants protection or as i have many times seen he thinks no one had hit this flop so he can bully people out of it with some weird straight draw like 86o. Once in a while he will show up with trips because he is that bad so the best exploit is to fold.
 
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