$55 NLHE MTT: Something wrong here?

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In the heat of the moment I did not think straight and chose raise / call preflop, but knowing that no hand is 100% winning, I believe that calling and seeing the flop with three players would be more interesting with pocket aces at this stage of the tournament.
Being an apprentice please give me your opinions.

Note: I do not play these limits, I was only contemplated with a ticket =)



600/1200 NL (8 max) - Holdem - 7 players


MP: 85.82 BB (VPIP: 50.00, PFR: 50.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, hands: 2)
CO: 89.57 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 2)
BTN: 77.84 BB (VPIP: 100.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 2)
SB: 148.47 BB (VPIP: 14.77, PFR: 9.20, 3Bet Preflop: 8.57, Hands: 88)
BB: 168.11 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 2)
Hero (UTG): 120.47 BB
UTG+1: 83.22 BB (VPIP: 43.33, PFR: 10.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 30)

7 players post ante of 0.12 BB, SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 2.32 BB) Hero has A A

Hero raises to 2.2 BB, fold, fold, CO raises to 6.5 BB, BTN calls 6.5 BB, fold, fold, Hero raises to 26 BB, CO raises to 89.45 BB and is all-in, fold, Hero calls 63.45 BB

Flop: (187.71 BB, 2 players) 2 K 9

Turn: (187.71 BB, 2 players) 3

River: (187.71 BB, 2 players) 8

Hero shows A A (One Pair, Aces)
(Pre 82%, Flop 9%, Turn 5%)
CO shows K K (Three of a Kind, Kings)
(Pre 18%, Flop 91%, Turn 95%)
CO wins 187.71 BB
 
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Nothing wrong with the play. It is just "one of those".

This is actually a good example of why you should only fold KK in similar situations if you have a read, like if you just know by the way he is betting (anyone who raises an UTG preflop raiser, usually has QQ-AA or is in a short stack situation with something almost as good, like TT, JJ, or AQ to AK. Since this was a $55 game I would assume that not too many players are messing around with suited connectors or a pair of 4s in that spot.) This would have been a pretty good spot for one of those great "pat yourself on the back" folds on his part, but luckily for him he did not.

Shrug it off and keeping moving forward. It will happen again, and again, and again. And, also, what would you have done if you had just seen an expensive flop instead? You think you are going to fold AA on that board? No way. It's just one of those hands we all hate. Nothing you can do about it but move on to the next game without letting it bother you.
 
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it's the dream scenario. you will win this 80% of the time!!

in other words....1 out of 5 times you will lose.

well played
 
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In the heat of the moment I did not think straight and chose raise / call preflop, but knowing that no hand is 100% winning, I believe that calling and seeing the flop with three players would be more interesting with pocket aces at this stage of the tournament.
Being an apprentice please give me your opinions.

Note: I do not play these limits, I was only contemplated with a ticket =)



600/1200 NL (8 max) - Holdem - 7 players


MP: 85.82 BB (VPIP: 50.00, PFR: 50.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 2)
CO: 89.57 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 2)
BTN: 77.84 BB (VPIP: 100.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 2)
SB: 148.47 BB (VPIP: 14.77, PFR: 9.20, 3Bet Preflop: 8.57, Hands: 88)
BB: 168.11 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 2)
Hero (UTG): 120.47 BB
UTG+1: 83.22 BB (VPIP: 43.33, PFR: 10.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 30)

7 players post ante of 0.12 BB, SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 2.32 BB) Hero has A A

Hero raises to 2.2 BB, fold, fold, CO raises to 6.5 BB, BTN calls 6.5 BB, fold, fold, Hero raises to 26 BB, CO raises to 89.45 BB and is all-in, fold, Hero calls 63.45 BB

Flop: (187.71 BB, 2 players) 2 K 9

Turn: (187.71 BB, 2 players) 3

River: (187.71 BB, 2 players) 8

Hero shows A A (One Pair, Aces)
(Pre 82%, Flop 9%, Turn 5%)
CO shows K K (Three of a Kind, Kings)
(Pre 18%, Flop 91%, Turn 95%)
CO wins 187.71 BB

I dont think that there Is another way to play this?
GG and that's it:)
 
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I agree with the above written posts, there isnt much else you could do.
Just remember the allins that you did win them with AA(that is more then that you will loose), and move on to the next 1..
 
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Thank you guys. It's very important for me to support you. And it would be really hard to fold on that flop for a bet.

Let's move on.
 
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It's fine, but sometimes you can play 3 way pot, to balance your hands
 
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It's fine, but sometimes you can play 3 way pot, to balance your hands

Yes; but that’s only if you think they’ll both fold to another bet. If you think either player has a hand he can stack off with then you try to get it in preflop. The dream scenario is AA all in vs 1 player for a big pot.
 
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Yes; but that’s only if you think they’ll both fold to another bet. If you think either player has a hand he can stack off with then you try to get it in preflop. The dream scenario is AA all in vs 1 player for a big pot.


Yeah, I'm with Jacki here. It's just too likely we get action when we 4bet for us to just call here imo. And we won't ALWAYS get the money in pre, but 4betting makes it MUCH more likely that we get a lot of chips in on later streets.

When we have an opportunity to put in a reasonable raise pre that puts in 30%+ of the effective stacks, it's generally a good idea to do so with aces. :)
 
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nice discussion .. call allin pre with AA or not.. hmm

i think yes.. you have spade in hand but you lose. the tramp was heart?
 
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