$.55 NLHE MTT: How to play trash hands pre-flop vs short stack 25 hand sample

[jsrader77014]

Here is an example hand when I run it through SitnGo Wizard. It suggests a shove rather than a fold. I get it Villian#1 aka player 2 is short stacked and has limped in. A weak play, from the small blind, would you really ever shove this light? You don't have any real history on either villain and what you do have indicates you will most likely get called from Villian #2. I know what the math says but, to me, this is just a losing play to put any money in this pot. However, I am more interested in what you guys think.


***** Hand History for Game 1111111111 ***** (WPN)
Tourney Hand NL Texas Hold'em - Thursday, May 03, 10:29:16 ET 2018
Table 25 GTD On Demand 5 (real money)
Seat 3 is the button
Seat 1: Player1 ( 1850 ) - VPIP: 18, PFR: 6, 3B: 3, AF: 2.6, hands: 158
Seat 2: Player2 ( 10 ) - VPIP: 36, PFR: 8, 3B: 0, AF: 4.0, Hands: 25
Seat 3: Player3 ( 1060 ) - VPIP: 33, PFR: 3, 3B: 0, AF: 2.7, Hands: 107
Seat 7: Hero ( 1445 ) - VPIP: 17, PFR: 12, 3B: 4, AF: 1.7, Hands: 21125
Seat 8: Player8 ( 2378 ) - VPIP: 57, PFR: 14, 3B: 0, AF: 3.0, Hands: 14
Seat 9: Player9 ( 3000 ) - VPIP: 29, PFR: 7, 3B: 0, AF: 0.9, Hands: 95
Hero posts small blind [20].
Player8 posts big blind [40].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Hero [ 2d 8d ]
Player9 folds
Player1 folds
Player2 calls [10]
Player3 folds
Hero folds
Player8 wins 20
** Dealing Flop ** [ 5h, 9c, Ad ]
** Dealing Turn ** [ 2h ]
** Dealing River ** [ Kh ]
Player2 wins 30 from main pot
Player2 shows [Js, 8h ]
Player8 wins 20 from main pot
Player8 shows [4c, Tc ]

 

[ZenGreen]

SNG wiz recommends you shove (82o) thru 2 stacks that have you coverred (LP players) to bascially steal 60 chips - going to risk 1400 to win 60. Sure you got that thing set up right, I never used sng wizard but Icmizer will be all wrong if its set up wrong but I see a lot of the free roll players here doing this stuff so maybe everyone is using SNG wizard

 

[Edson]

82 is fold even in this kind of situation. This is one of the worst hands you can get so it is not profitable to play that trash

 

[FailX21]

Yeah, easy fold here, no need to risk this big to get so little.

 

[Ryan Laplante]

Here is an example hand when I run it through SitnGo Wizard. It suggests a shove rather than a fold. I get it Villian#1 aka player 2 is short stacked and has limped in. A weak play, from the small blind, would you really ever shove this light? You don't have any real history on either villain and what you do have indicates you will most likely get called from Villian #2. I know what the math says but, to me, this is just a losing play to put any money in this pot. However, I am more interested in what you guys think.


***** Hand History for Game 1111111111 ***** (WPN)
Tourney Hand NL Texas Hold'em - Thursday, May 03, 10:29:16 ET 2018
Table 25 GTD On Demand 5 (Real Money)
Seat 3 is the button
Seat 1: Player1 ( 1850 ) - VPIP: 18, PFR: 6, 3B: 3, AF: 2.6, Hands: 158
Seat 2: Player2 ( 10 ) - VPIP: 36, PFR: 8, 3B: 0, AF: 4.0, Hands: 25
Seat 3: Player3 ( 1060 ) - VPIP: 33, PFR: 3, 3B: 0, AF: 2.7, Hands: 107
Seat 7: Hero ( 1445 ) - VPIP: 17, PFR: 12, 3B: 4, AF: 1.7, Hands: 21125
Seat 8: Player8 ( 2378 ) - VPIP: 57, PFR: 14, 3B: 0, AF: 3.0, Hands: 14
Seat 9: Player9 ( 3000 ) - VPIP: 29, PFR: 7, 3B: 0, AF: 0.9, Hands: 95
Hero posts small blind [20].
Player8 posts big blind [40].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Hero [ 2d 8d ]
Player9 folds
Player1 folds
Player2 calls [10]
Player3 folds
Hero folds
Player8 wins 20
** Dealing Flop ** [ 5h, 9c, Ad ]
** Dealing Turn ** [ 2h ]
** Dealing River ** [ Kh ]
Player2 wins 30 from main pot
Player2 shows [Js, 8h ]
Player8 wins 20 from main pot
Player8 shows [4c, Tc ]

I would complete the sb (call the bb).