$55 NLHE MTT: Big 55 flopped set vs UTG limper

[duggs]

first few hands on this table so no stats or reads

pokerstars - $50+$5|10/20 NL (9 max) - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3: http://www.pokertracker.com

BTN: 2,498.00
SB: 2,980.00
BB: 2,970.00
UTG: 2,911.00
UTG+1: 3,030.00
MP: 2,731.00
Hero (MP+1): 2,940.00
LP: 2,960.00
CO: 3,000.00

SB posts SB 10.00, BB posts BB 20.00

Pre Flop: (30.00) Hero has 8s 8d

UTG raises to 40.00, fold, fold, Hero calls 40.00, fold, fold, fold, fold, BB calls 20.00

Flop: (130.00, 3 players) Ks Ac 8h
BB checks, UTG bets 80.00, Hero calls 80.00, fold

Turn: (290.00, 2 players) Qc
UTG checks, Hero bets 145.00, UTG calls 145.00

River: (580.00, 2 players) 3c
UTG bets 420.00, Hero raises to 1,320.00, UTG calls 900.00

comments on bet sizing/line really appreciated, i felt i was deep enough to set mine. but was unsure if i should raise flop

 

[tenbob]

UTG raised, he didnt limp.

But, seriously you need to get chips in the middle when you flop a set, the flop is great for 88, raise it. You'll get tons of action if he has AK, and maybe even AQ. You will find it extremly difficult to get stacks in the middle, when you are putting 145 chips in each on the flop.

As played though.

Bet more on the turn.

Shove the river.

 

[duggs]

yea i thought so after, thanks man

 

[cjatud2012]

I think your pre-flop call is fine, you're in a MTT and need to try and you need to make moves like this for the long haul. On the flop, though, I don't think I like flatting. I think a lot of top-pair and two-pair type hands will call a raise, or even re-raise. A lot of the hands he's c-betting with will check/fold the turn (especially if the BB calls behind you), so I don't think folding those out of the flop will really lose you that much value. Plus, if you want to get your whole stack in by the river, you're gonna be best off putting in a raise now.

 

[LaserCats]

If you have to win this hand then jam him more on flop. If you can stand to lose it then just set the drag and let him pay u off with out producing an all-in show down if you can help it.

 

[baudib1]

If you have to win this hand then jam him more on flop. If you can stand to lose it then just set the drag and let him pay u off with out producing an all-in show down if you can help it.

This thinking is completely wrong. Your goal is to maximize value, not to win the hand.

 

[pycb]

If this is a sng ? Just calling on the button with 88 is weak, Re pop prolly 70-30.
you need to be raising after you flop your set hence the reason for the Pre flop raise you will get A to go all on on a flop aj aq???? But I like the river bet not ever really worried about a flush there but you can avoid that by raise on flop

 

[baudib1]

If this is a sng ? Just calling on the button with 88 is weak, Re pop prolly 70-30.
you need to be raising after you flop your set hence the reason for the Pre flop raise you will get A to go all on on a flop aj aq???? But I like the river bet not ever really worried about a flush there but you can avoid that by raise on flop

Reraising 88 OTB vs. an UTG minraiser with 150 BB stacks is just unspeakably horrible.

 

[baudib1]

If this is a sng ? Just calling on the button with 88 is weak, Re pop prolly 70-30.
you need to be raising after you flop your set hence the reason for the Pre flop raise you will get A to go all on on a flop aj aq???? But I like the river bet not ever really worried about a flush there but you can avoid that by raise on flop

Reraising 88 OTB vs. an UTG minraiser with 150 BB stacks is just unspeakably horrible. It would be twice as unspeakably horrible in a SNG.

 

[Poker Orifice]

If this is a sng ? Just calling on the button with 88 is weak, Re pop prolly 70-30.
you need to be raising after you flop your set hence the reason for the Pre flop raise you will get A to go all on on a flop aj aq???? But I like the river bet not ever really worried about a flush there but you can avoid that by raise on flop

So if the guy's got an AJ he's gonna ship 150bb's on the flop? "ez game"