55 15bb vs 4 players

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partypoker- 1500/3000 NL - Holdem - 8 players

UTG: 18.66 BB (VPIP: 17.14, PFR: 12.27, 3Bet Preflop: 4.42, hands: 494)
UTG+1: 28.08 BB (VPIP: 47.62, PFR: 35.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 21)
MP: 60.32 BB (VPIP: 40.85, PFR: 17.39, 3Bet Preflop: 5.71, Hands: 165)
MP+1: 30.24 BB (VPIP: 24.44, PFR: 15.21, 3Bet Preflop: 8.28, Hands: 365)
CO: 16.67 BB
Hero (BTN): 15.53 BB
SB: 4.69 BB (VPIP: 15.79, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 19)
BB: 18.5 BB (VPIP: 14.29, PFR: 9.76, 3Bet Preflop: 2.94, Hands: 84)

8 players post ante of 0.1 BB, SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 2.3 BB) Hero has 5d 5h

UTG raises to 2.5 BB, UTG+1 calls 2.5 BB, MP calls 2.5 BB, MP+1 calls 2.5 BB, ???

V1 17/12 rfi ep 8%
V2 48/35 call open 27%
V3 41/17 call open 39%
V4 24/15 call open 19%

What range do you push here? or how to count this? HRC allows only 3 players in the pot
 
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Snap fold. You dont have enough to call and set mine so its fold or shove. The EP player only raises in that positioning 8% of hands so you are hopping for a race with AK and AQ and you in deep trouble vs the rest. He is also short as well and I doubt he is raise folding here. Easy fold all day long. Against this guy, jack+ and AQs+ is all i am pushing here.
 
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fold > call >>> shove

with ~13bb already in the pot they are getting good odds to call your shove for 12.5bb so you have no fold equity

also UTG range is crushing 55

i start shoving only JJ+ AKs considering the EP 8% Opening
TT is slightly +EV but i would still fold them with 3 caller in the Hand

i wouldn't mind playing vs UTG+1 and MP because they have really lose stats (although 29 Hands is no real sample)
also MP+1 would 3bet with a premium here.
 
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As the others say, this is a fold, since you are in bad shape against the opening range from a tight UTG player, and its unlikely, that he is going to open-fold. It could be argued, that there is dead chips in the pot from the field callers.

But UTG can see those chips also, and at least two of the field callers seem to be bad, so they are likely going to call as well with their whatever. This mean, you most likely end up in a 3-way or 4-way all in preflop situation with 55, which is pretty bad. When someone has a better pocket pair, you are basically ****ed, and even when that is not the case, you are sort of break even in chip EV at best.
 
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After all analisys, I fold that next time,thanks by the feed.
 
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fold. after your push anyone could call by chances
 
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