$.50 NLHE MTT: JJ facing Over bet shove on Dry flop

[naruto_miu]

I seriously hate this hand...Am I good enough to call here? I mean it's so early that I know players will spaze with weaker holdings on these types of flops (I have no reads at all, except for the other player that calls is a Total Maniac)...Did I make the correct fold here, I think I personally did, but I mean could he ever show up with 10s/8s? What do you all think



pokerstars No-Limit Hold'em, 0.5 Tournament, 15/30 Blinds (8 handed) - PokerStars Hand Converter from HandHistoryConverter.com

BB (t1500)
UTG (t1490)
UTG+1 (t3440)
Hero (MP1) (t1380)
MP2 (t1920)
CO (t2710)
Button (t3310)
SB (t1190)

Hero's M: 30.67

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with J

, J

UTG calls t30, 1 fold, Hero bets t90, 2 folds, Button calls t90, SB raises to t270, 2 folds, Hero calls t180, Button calls t180

Flop: (t870) Q

, 9

, Q

(3 players)
SB bets t920 (All-In), Hero folds, 1 fold

Total pot: t870

Results:
SB didn't show
Outcome: SB won t870

 

[WiZZiM]

shove or fold preflop. Probably shoving it.

 

[naruto_miu]

shove or fold preflop. Probably shoving it.

I guess your correct in saying this but is calling really that awful with this hand? I mean if I shoved (Which I was thinking of), I figure only hands that crush me call, also I thought they would'nt spaz out on flops that don't help them out at all..

 

[BlueNowhere]

I guess your correct in saying this but is calling really that awful with this hand? I mean if I shoved (Which I was thinking of), I figure only hands that crush me call, also I thought they would'nt spaz out on flops that don't help them out at all..

Shove pre. Calling is pretty awful. $0.50 BI so we completely crush villians range. Some people spaz out and call all in with shit like A3o. We're a decent bit ahead of AQ AK, flipping if they're suited. We fear 3 hands out of 221 and at this level he probably calls with top 10% of his range (wouldn't be surprised if some call around 20%). So we're so far ahead of what will call us it shouldn't even need thinking about.

 

[baudib1]

As played I'd call. You have to be aware that he's going to do this on any flop and that's not scary enough to fold to a PSB.
Should definitely shove or fold pre based on how tight he is.

 

[WiZZiM]

I guess your correct in saying this but is calling really that awful with this hand? I mean if I shoved (Which I was thinking of), I figure only hands that crush me call, also I thought they would'nt spaz out on flops that don't help them out at all..

It is if your going to fold on flops like this.

 

[Pascal-lf]

shove pre ainec, we have jacks weeeee get it in

or fold if hes an abso nit