$50 NLHE MTT Deep Stacked: Line Check

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V just sat down. 6 hands, has played half of them and 3-bet 33% of them.
Standard here or what should I have done?


pokerstars - 1250/2500 Ante 325 NL (8 max) - Holdem - 8 players
Hand converted by Holdem Manager 3

MP: 33,541 (13.4 bb)
Hero (MP+1): 100,521 (40.2 bb)
CO: 137,330 (54.9 bb)
BTN: 73,370 (29.3 bb)
SB: 110,850 (44.3 bb)
BB: 76,616 (30.6 bb)
UTG: 91,843 (36.7 bb)
UTG+1: 52,503 (21 bb)

8 players post ante of 325, SB posts 1,250, BB posts 2,500

Pre Flop: (pot: 6,350) Hero has :js4: :jd4:
3 folds, Hero raises to 5,555, CO raises to 17,500, 3 folds, Hero calls 11,945

Flop: (41,350, 2 players) :3s4: :2d4: :7c4:
Hero checks, CO bets 24,750, Hero raises to 82,696 and is all-in, CO calls 57,946

Turn: (206,742, 2 players) :9d4:

River: (206,742, 2 players) :10h4:

Results: 206,742 pot (0 rake)
Final Board: :3s4: :2d4: :7c4: :9d4: :10h4:

Hero shows :js4: :jd4:: (One Pair, Jacks)
(Pre 17%, Flop 8%, Turn 5%)

CO shows :qs4: :qd4:: (One Pair, Queens)
(Pre 83%, Flop 92%, Turn 95%)

CO wins 206,742
 
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You certainly cant get away from JJ, as the board ran out, so its only a question of, which way its best to go broke. I think, there is a case for just ripping it in preflop. You opened from HJ, which mean, his 3-bet range is wider than, if you opened from EP. You could also go the other way and just check-call the flop to allow him to continue bluffing, but I think, you are then usually just giving him two free cards to draw out on you with his AK/AQ type hands. I think the way, you played it, is completely fine, and its just an annoying cooler situation. He had the one pip better hand.
 
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You certainly cant get away from JJ, as the board ran out, so its only a question of, which way its best to go broke. I think, there is a case for just ripping it in preflop. You opened from HJ, which mean, his 3-bet range is wider than, if you opened from EP. You could also go the other way and just check-call the flop to allow him to continue bluffing, but I think, you are then usually just giving him two free cards to draw out on you with his AK/AQ type hands. I think the way, you played it, is completely fine, and its just an annoying cooler situation. He had the one pip better hand.

That's why I liked the call then check/jam anything that doesn't hit AQ+. 6 hands isn't much, but differently he was getting smacked w/the deck.
 
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You certainly cant get away from JJ, as the board ran out, so its only a question of, which way its best to go broke. I think, there is a case for just ripping it in preflop. You opened from HJ, which mean, his 3-bet range is wider than, if you opened from EP. You could also go the other way and just check-call the flop to allow him to continue bluffing, but I think, you are then usually just giving him two free cards to draw out on you with his AK/AQ type hands. I think the way, you played it, is completely fine, and its just an annoying cooler situation. He had the one pip better hand.

N good word, "pip" haven't heard that in awhile.
 
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Its usually best to not even look at HUD stats after just 6 hands. VPIP 50% does not say anything at all, if its 3 out of 6, since its pretty common to pick up 3 playable hands in a short time. For me to even consider making adjustments after just 6 hands with someone I need to have a non-HUD tell like a limp, a weird bet size or him showing down a hand, he should not have.
 
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Its usually best to not even look at HUD stats after just 6 hands. VPIP 50% does not say anything at all, if its 3 out of 6, since its pretty common to pick up 3 playable hands in a short time. For me to even consider making adjustments after just 6 hands with someone I need to have a non-HUD tell like a limp, a weird bet size or him showing down a hand, he should not have.


Oh, definitely wasn't basing it on that. I know you can catch fire. Like I said, my thinking once i flat PF is check/jam any board not hitting AQ+. Was just trying to see if there was a way around it or if it was inevitable. Too few hands n caught up against better.

Thanks as always diver.

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You cant judge him just by 6 hands. In those six hands he could have had good hands, you acted tooo harshly. Besides that he would never call your allin in the flop if he had nothing , if you thought he had nothing you should have made a little 3bet.Your hand doesnt make sense that`s what i mean.
 
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V just sat down. 6 hands, has played half of them and 3-bet 33% of them.
Standard here or what should I have done?


PokerStars - 1250/2500 Ante 325 NL (8 max) - Holdem - 8 players
Hand converted by Holdem Manager 3

MP: 33,541 (13.4 bb)
Hero (MP+1): 100,521 (40.2 bb)
CO: 137,330 (54.9 bb)
BTN: 73,370 (29.3 bb)
SB: 110,850 (44.3 bb)
BB: 76,616 (30.6 bb)
UTG: 91,843 (36.7 bb)
UTG+1: 52,503 (21 bb)

8 players post ante of 325, SB posts 1,250, BB posts 2,500

Pre Flop: (pot: 6,350) Hero has :js4: :jd4:
3 folds, Hero raises to 5,555, CO raises to 17,500, 3 folds, Hero calls 11,945

Flop: (41,350, 2 players) :3s4: :2d4: :7c4:
Hero checks, CO bets 24,750, Hero raises to 82,696 and is all-in, CO calls 57,946

Turn: (206,742, 2 players) :9d4:

River: (206,742, 2 players) :10h4:

Results: 206,742 pot (0 rake)
Final Board: :3s4: :2d4: :7c4: :9d4: :10h4:

Hero shows :js4: :jd4:: (One Pair, Jacks)
(Pre 17%, Flop 8%, Turn 5%)

CO shows :qs4: :qd4:: (One Pair, Queens)
(Pre 83%, Flop 92%, Turn 95%)

CO wins 206,742


Thank U 4 Posting

What was the purpose of your flop check raise? It seems you wanted to get worse hands to fold and only be called by better hands. Were you expecting all pairs to call? If so why try to get weaker than pairs to fold?

KsQs has only 25% equity vs us AsKs 27%. etc

We can call here and evaluate turns and we keep in bluffs if this villain is overly aggressive.


Hope this helps
:):)
 
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