$.50 NLHE MTT Deep Stacked: Bomb this flop with my draw?

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Did I give up all my equity by checking back on the flop? Two pretty short stacks who I knew nothing about. Thought they might just call if I jam. So just kinda gave up, CF.

Thoughts?

NL Holdem $0.50+$0.05 (80000.00BB)
BTN ($909250)
SB ($430000)
BB ($1176000)
UTG ($874000)
HERO ($4342055)
HJ ($2130632)
CO ($802000)

Dealt to Hero: T 9

UTG Calls $80000, HERO Calls $80000, HJ Folds, CO Folds, BTN Folds, SB Folds, BB Checks

Hero SPR on Flop: [2.56 effective]
Flop ($308000): 5 J Q
BB Checks, UTG Checks, HERO Checks

Turn ($308000): 5 J Q A
BB Bets $80000 (Rem. Stack: $1012000), UTG Folds, HERO Calls $80000 (Rem. Stack: $4178055)

River ($468000): 5 J Q A 7
BB Bets $80000 (Rem. Stack: $932000), HERO Folds

BB wins: $468000
 
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Did I give up all my equity by checking back on the flop? Two pretty short stacks who I knew nothing about. Thought they might just call if I jam. So just kinda gave up, CF.

Thoughts?

NL Holdem $0.50+$0.05 (80000.00BB)
BTN ($909250)
SB ($430000)
BB ($1176000)
UTG ($874000)
HERO ($4342055)
HJ ($2130632)
CO ($802000)

Dealt to Hero: T 9

UTG Calls $80000, HERO Calls $80000, HJ Folds, CO Folds, BTN Folds, SB Folds, BB Checks

Hero SPR on Flop: [2.56 effective]
Flop ($308000): 5 J Q
BB Checks, UTG Checks, HERO Checks

Turn ($308000): 5 J Q A
BB Bets $80000 (Rem. Stack: $1012000), UTG Folds, HERO Calls $80000 (Rem. Stack: $4178055)

River ($468000): 5 J Q A 7
BB Bets $80000 (Rem. Stack: $932000), HERO Folds

BB wins: $468000



You are chips leader at the table. You should play more aggressive. If you want play this hand, you should raise preflop. And bet flop about 60%-80% turn.
 
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Preflop
Limping behind with this garbage hand is absolutely terrible. Its not a raise either, "if you want to play the hand", because you do NOT want to EVER play a hand this bad with the entire table left to act after you.

Flop
I would have taken a stab here, but since they are so short, you need to be prepared, that they might jam over a raise, in which case you probably have to call it off and hope to complete your draw. Checking is also a +EV play though, so its not like, this is a big mistake.

Turn
As played I would also just call. Not interested in stacking off now, that there is only one card left, but cant fold either, when he gives you 5:1, which is direct odds to draw to 8 outs.

River
Obviously cant call with T high even to a small bet. His sizing does look very weak, so you could turn your hand into a bluff and raise. However the issue is, you would not really represent anything, and chances are, he is very fishy with his sizing and also the stakes. So as played I see no reason to do anything but fold and get away very cheaply from your busted draw.

Conclusion
The main point in this hand is preflop. Limping behind with complete garbage from UTG+1 is such a massive mistake, that until you fix this, postflop wont even matter. Preflop is not complicated. There are loads of free charts available, and its easy to memorize. If the issue is boredom, then learn to play more tables at the same time, so that you dont get this urge to see a flop with anything, that looks remotely playable.
 
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Very weak position to wake up to make a family-pot with 109o.
Small stacks now easily make their shove if they have valuable combinations, and as just two limps happened, they can make it by wilder ranges for the blinds.

We managed to see the flop, and from the best position now I don't think we can check here. Would raise 1/3 flop here which is still kinda small in general, but looking still big enough to make them fold or show some extra power coming to the other streets.
 
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