$5 NLHE MTT: Facing tough action with QQ on BTN.

[alienat3d]

It was very small MTT for $5, like 20 players, 3 places paid. Blinds: 10 Minutes. 8max

I play those games quite often, so I have some solid hand seize on some of regulars. However I played often 6max tables with them, that's why stats are a bit higher, than it should be for 8max.
I been sitting on Button with QQ, when saw that kind of crazy action in front of me. By default it's a shove I believe, what I did.
But maybe anyone has a thoughts about folding this one and wait for a better opportunity? Or a fold here would be a totally wasting value of a hand?

ICMizer says these kind of ranges are profitable for shove in that situation: ((2.6%) TT+,AKs) What you think about it?
888 Poker - 200/400 Ante 50 NL - Holdem - 8 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

UTG (UTG): 16.41 BB (VPIP: 22.41, PFR: 15.40, 3Bet Preflop: 6.93, hands: 544)
UTG+1 (UTG+1): 12.36 BB (VPIP: 40.46, PFR: 29.20, 3Bet Preflop: 11.41, Hands: 1,120)
MP (MP): 91.5 BB (VPIP: 40.00, PFR: 17.11, 3Bet Preflop: 1.20, Hands: 243)
MP+1 (MP+1): 39.81 BB (VPIP: 47.78, PFR: 14.61, 3Bet Preflop: 11.27, Hands: 183)
CO (CO): 34.72 BB (VPIP: 20.00, PFR: 13.98, 3Bet Preflop: 7.01, Hands: 649)
Hero (BTN): 30.67 BB
SB (SB): 31.66 BB (VPIP: 11.46, PFR: 4.90, 3Bet Preflop: 2.12, Hands: 812)
BB (BB): 42.86 BB (VPIP: 23.33, PFR: 16.84, 3Bet Preflop: 7.69, Hands: 398)

8 players post ante of 0.13 BB, SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Dealt to Hero:


fold, UTG+1 raises to 12.24 BB and is all-in, MP raises to 23.47 BB, fold, fold, Hero raises to 30.54 BB and is all-in, fold, fold, MP calls 7.07 BB

Flop (75.83 BB, 3 players):


Turn (75.83 BB, 3 players):


River (75.83 BB, 3 players):

Spoiler

UTG+1 shows:

(One Pair, Jacks)
Main Pot [39.21 BB]: (Pre 25%, Flop 9%, Turn 0%)

MP shows:

(Full House, Kings full of Jacks)
Main Pot [39.21 BB]: (Pre 58%, Flop 80%, Turn 100%)
Side Pot [36.61 BB]: (Pre 82%, Flop 89%, Turn 100%)

Hero shows:

(Two Pair, Queens and Jacks)
Main Pot [39.21 BB]: (Pre 17%, Flop 10%, Turn 0%)
Side Pot [36.61 BB]: (Pre 18%, Flop 11%, Turn 0%)

MP wins 39.21 BB

MP wins 36.61 BB

 

[skeptix]

Very standard to get it in here. Just a cooler.

 

[eetenor]

Action based read?

It was very small MTT for $5, like 20 players, 3 places paid. Blinds: 10 Minutes. 8max

I play those games quite often, so I have some solid hand seize on some of regulars. However I played often 6max tables with them, that's why stats are a bit higher, than it should be for 8max.
I been sitting on Button with QQ, when saw that kind of crazy action in front of me. By default it's a shove I believe, what I did.
But maybe anyone has a thoughts about folding this one and wait for a better opportunity? Or a fold here would be a totally wasting value of a hand?

ICMizer says these kind of ranges are profitable for shove in that situation: ((2.6%) TT+,AKs) What you think about it?
888 Poker - 200/400 Ante 50 NL - Holdem - 8 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

UTG (UTG): 16.41 BB (VPIP: 22.41, PFR: 15.40, 3Bet Preflop: 6.93, Hands: 544)
UTG+1 (UTG+1): 12.36 BB (VPIP: 40.46, PFR: 29.20, 3Bet Preflop: 11.41, Hands: 1,120)
MP (MP): 91.5 BB (VPIP: 40.00, PFR: 17.11, 3Bet Preflop: 1.20, Hands: 243)
MP+1 (MP+1): 39.81 BB (VPIP: 47.78, PFR: 14.61, 3Bet Preflop: 11.27, Hands: 183)
CO (CO): 34.72 BB (VPIP: 20.00, PFR: 13.98, 3Bet Preflop: 7.01, Hands: 649)
Hero (BTN): 30.67 BB
SB (SB): 31.66 BB (VPIP: 11.46, PFR: 4.90, 3Bet Preflop: 2.12, Hands: 812)
BB (BB): 42.86 BB (VPIP: 23.33, PFR: 16.84, 3Bet Preflop: 7.69, Hands: 398)

8 players post ante of 0.13 BB, SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Dealt to Hero:


fold, UTG+1 raises to 12.24 BB and is all-in, MP raises to 23.47 BB, fold, fold, Hero raises to 30.54 BB and is all-in, fold, fold, MP calls 7.07 BB

Flop (75.83 BB, 3 players):


Turn (75.83 BB, 3 players):


River (75.83 BB, 3 players):

Spoiler

UTG+1 shows:

(One Pair, Jacks)
Main Pot [39.21 BB]: (Pre 25%, Flop 9%, Turn 0%)

MP shows:

(Full House, Kings full of Jacks)
Main Pot [39.21 BB]: (Pre 58%, Flop 80%, Turn 100%)
Side Pot [36.61 BB]: (Pre 82%, Flop 89%, Turn 100%)

Hero shows:

(Two Pair, Queens and Jacks)
Main Pot [39.21 BB]: (Pre 17%, Flop 10%, Turn 0%)
Side Pot [36.61 BB]: (Pre 18%, Flop 11%, Turn 0%)

MP wins 39.21 BB

MP wins 36.61 BB

Thanks for posting.

Having played with the opponents before does a min raise in this spot mean anything?
Would JJ-22 just min raise or shove to protect?

If you compare all of the stats player to player you will notice in relation to the others MP is one of the tighter players when raising. Vpip to pfr 40 -17 vs utg1 40-29

In a difficult spot like this it is the little pieces of data that help indicate the strength of MP's range.

Hope this helps

 

[zekubiki]

standard. you played well on preflop, so it was just a cooler.

 

[zuker]

the question is all about ranges. if you push and MP call you have to win 41% to be even.
UTG1 has pretty wide range.
Has MP relevant 3bet stat? If so his range very tight QQ+ AK.
It is borderline situation.


Hand 0: 24.629% { QcQs }
Hand 1: 18.101% { 22+, A4s+, K9s+, Q9s+, JTs, ATo+, KJo+, QJo }
Hand 2: 57.270% { QQ+, AKs }

my opinion we can push if MP has TT+ AQs+