$5.5 NLHE MTT: C-Bet versus Slow Play

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I raised pre-flop with AKs, two callers on the flop I missed but both villains checked to me so I did a 50% of the pot C-bet which put one of the villains all-in and he'd slow-played a Set.

Is this just one of those hands that happens, or should I have played it differently? Seems like an appropriate position to C-bet to me.


888Poker, $5 + $0.50 - Hold'em No Limit - 200/400 (40 ante) - 7 players
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UTG: 18,552 (46 bb)
MP: 12,573 (31 bb)
MP+1 (Hero): 7,467 (19 bb)
CO: 5,858 (15 bb)
BU: 6,684 (17 bb)
SB: 2,410 (6 bb)
BB: 8,959 (22 bb)

Pre-Flop: (880) Hero is MP+1 with K A
2 players fold, Hero raises to 1,200, 2 players fold, SB calls 1,000, BB calls 800

Flop: (3,880) 9 T 7 (3 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets 1,940, SB calls 1,170 (all-in), BB folds

Turn: (6,220) 2 (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: (6,220) 5 (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: 6,220

Showdown:
MP+1 (Hero) shows K A (high card, Ace)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 46%, Flop: 3%, Turn: 0%, River: 0%)

SB shows T T (three of a kind, Tens)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 54%, Flop: 97%, Turn: 100%, River: 100%)

SB wins 6,220
 
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You could have checked for pot control and enjoyed a free card, but it was worth a try...
and you definitely don't want to give a free card on this flop
 
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Not sure with the preflop sizing, can anyone explain whether 3x is standard is this situation?
 
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Good question.

I normally do 3x pre-flop, unless I'm 10-15 BBs in which case I might drop to 2.5x . . . and <10 I'd normally push/fold.

Yeah Krankes with 2x Diamonds on the flop then anyone chasing those I'd not want to get a free card, in as much as a free card might have been useful to me.

Is that not appropriate play?
 
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Preflop
With stacks this short I normally min-raise. You can do the funky stuff also and go to 2,1 or 2,2BB, which many regulars prefer, but its essentially the same thing. The point of using a smaller sizing is, that everyone except BB is supposed to either rejam or fold, when we have entered the pot, and therefore we want to lose less, when we fold to a rejam. Obviously we are not planning on folding AK, but we want to use the same sizing with our entire range, so that we dont give away bet sizing tells.

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This is a very bad flop both for our hand and our range, and against two opponents I definitely prefer to check back and take a free card. That being said SB had so little left behind, that you cant fold AK against him. So if you had checked back, he would likely have jammed the turn, and unless BB then gave him action, You would still have to pay him off. Realistically he should have moved in preflop for his 6BB, and then of course you would have called, and the result would have been the same.
 
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with such a low SPR compared to SBs stack we should check the flop w/ our overcards, because we cant call if BB decide to reshove. if its a headsup vs SB then shoving or calling a shove is profitable in the long run
 
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on 888 this happens almost always, but the way you played I think is right, with few players at the table, I would raise 3x the bb, to isolate, but if I don't hit the flop, I would check to try to win a free card,
 
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on 888 this happens almost always

What exactly is specific to 888 about AK and TT getting it in against each other for 6 bigs? I cant imagine any situation, which is more standard in poker.
 
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The opponent that was all in from the cbet , lets pretend he doesn't exist because our SPR says to(basically)

our flop is , our BB opponent flat called 3x preflop
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this is a HARD flop for me to want to CBET bluff with no diamond in my hand
against the ranges of my opponents

but that doesn't mean its always a check fold either

I wouldn't care about the TT hand ....just ignore it..part of poker
 
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