3bet Shove 66

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pokerstars - 40/80 Ante 10 NL - Holdem - 8 players

BTN: 48.36 BB (VPIP: 35.29, PFR: 11.76, 3Bet Preflop: 25.00, hands: 17)
SB: 16.6 BB (VPIP: 26.23, PFR: 21.67, 3Bet Preflop: 14.29, Hands: 61)
BB: 11.77 BB (VPIP: 22.22, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 9)
UTG: 23.8 BB (VPIP: 45.24, PFR: 21.95, 3Bet Preflop: 12.50, Hands: 42)
UTG+1: 17.69 BB (VPIP: 5.88, PFR: 5.88, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 17)
MP: 21.49 BB (VPIP: 21.21, PFR: 12.50, 3Bet Preflop: 7.69, Hands: 66)
MP+1: 14.79 BB (VPIP: 23.08, PFR: 17.46, 3Bet Preflop: 4.00, Hands: 66)
Hero (CO): 27.06 BB

8 players post ante of 0.13 BB, SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 2.5 BB) Hero has 6s 6d
fold, fold, fold, MP+1 raises to 3 BB, Hero raises to 26.94 BB and is all-in, fold, fold, fold, MP+1 calls 11.66 BB and is all-in

Does the shove make sense?
 
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I understand why you shoved but not sure its the best idea. That button is loose enough that he may call a bit wider that we would like and when he does we are in a flip or is deep trouble. I am not sure whats the best option here but I think a 3 bet to 7 or 8BB would get the trash hands to fold and if one of the other shove over you can think of folding. Tricky spot here for sure.
 
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I understand why you shoved but not sure its the best idea. That button is loose enough that he may call a bit wider that we would like and when he does we are in a flip or is deep trouble. I am not sure whats the best option here but I think a 3 bet to 7 or 8BB would get the trash hands to fold and if one of the other shove over you can think of folding. Tricky spot here for sure.

Yes, very hard decision, some hands makes me wonder
 
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I think there is no point in your all in, first the aggressor has 14bb and when making a raise of 3bb is clearly willing to pay any 3bet allin since it is too short, it would not go up to fold. Second, your all in does not make sense unless you have clearly identified your opening range that can be too soft in that case nor would it justify it since you would be winning very few hands ..... what was the result?
 
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Good foldequity +good equity = nice push. I think 44+ will be OK.
 
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I think there is no point in your all in, first the aggressor has 14bb and when making a raise of 3bb is clearly willing to pay any 3bet allin since it is too short, it would not go up to fold. Second, your all in does not make sense unless you have clearly identified your opening range that can be too soft in that case nor would it justify it since you would be winning very few hands ..... what was the result?
+1

when he is raising 3bb instead of shoving 14bb he might try to get Action instead of folds. therefor his range should be really strong and comparable to his 3b range (4%) which is crushing your 66.

with not enough fold equity and others behind, fold it.
and calling is even worse than shoving if you thought About that
 
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raising 3bb with 14bb means push, so you have no fold equity and your hand not enough strong. so your push is pretty useless
 
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Judging from the blinds and stack sizes, this is the third blind level in a PokerStars multi table SnG, and this mean, we are still pretty far from the money. I am not so fond of running big bluffs at this stage, because a lot of players are still calling pretty loose. There is a bit of a "do or die" mentality at this stage, since the blinds are now beginning to pressure players, who are still left with the original starting stack, and to reach the money you need to dubble up 2-3 times. If this was near the bubble or on the final table, I am more on board with it. If the jam is not profitable, because it get called to much, I would just fold. Not enough stack here to go for a set-mine or try to outplay him postflop.
 
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PokerStars - 40/80 Ante 10 NL - Holdem - 8 players

BTN: 48.36 BB (VPIP: 35.29, PFR: 11.76, 3Bet Preflop: 25.00, Hands: 17)
SB: 16.6 BB (VPIP: 26.23, PFR: 21.67, 3Bet Preflop: 14.29, Hands: 61)
BB: 11.77 BB (VPIP: 22.22, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 9)
UTG: 23.8 BB (VPIP: 45.24, PFR: 21.95, 3Bet Preflop: 12.50, Hands: 42)
UTG+1: 17.69 BB (VPIP: 5.88, PFR: 5.88, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 17)
MP: 21.49 BB (VPIP: 21.21, PFR: 12.50, 3Bet Preflop: 7.69, Hands: 66)
MP+1: 14.79 BB (VPIP: 23.08, PFR: 17.46, 3Bet Preflop: 4.00, Hands: 66)
Hero (CO): 27.06 BB

8 players post ante of 0.13 BB, SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 2.5 BB) Hero has 6s 6d
fold, fold, fold, MP+1 raises to 3 BB, Hero raises to 26.94 BB and is all-in, fold, fold, fold, MP+1 calls 11.66 BB and is all-in

Does the shove make sense?
No, I check that in ICIMER and result was AA-TT, AKs and AKo all-in is profitable.
 
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