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Here's a hand that was interesting. 2nd round of tourney, first hand I played, I'm in the bb. Had to think really hard, clocke for a bit on this; there was no preflop raise so I had no reads at all other than annuska being a calling station.


pokerstars Game #17853419991: Tournament #90240752, $5.00+$0.50 Hold'em No Limit - Level I (10/20) - 2008/06/01 - 21:13:19 (ET)
Table '90240752 130' 9-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: JFS1986 (460 in chips)
Seat 2: nobluffsever (4800 in chips)
Seat 3: Tastybabe (1640 in chips)
Seat 4: annuska (5415 in chips)
Seat 5: Batman401 (1295 in chips)
Seat 6: un-diluted (1470 in chips)
Seat 7: DNAPoker (1420 in chips)
Seat 8: skoolyrat (1470 in chips)
Seat 9: Anthony5580 (1450 in chips)
Batman401: posts small blind 10
un-diluted: posts big blind 20
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to un-diluted [4c 3d]
Anthony5580 said, "nh"
DNAPoker: calls 20
skoolyrat: folds
Anthony5580: folds
nobluffsever said, "seems a rather slow pace for this many players"
JFS1986: folds
nobluffsever: folds
Tastybabe: calls 20
annuska: calls 20
Batman401: calls 10
un-diluted: checks
*** FLOP *** [3c 9s 4h]
nobluffsever said, " I'll make breakfast"
Batman401: checks
un-diluted: checks
DNAPoker: checks
Tastybabe: checks
annuska: bets 60
Batman401: calls 60
un-diluted: raises 160 to 220
DNAPoker: folds
Tastybabe: folds
annuska: calls 160
Batman401: calls 160
*** TURN *** [3c 9s 4h] [Jh]
Batman401: checks
un-diluted????
 
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what is interesting about this hand? BB special, and you flop bottom 2pr?

You raise a weak flop bet and see the river. They check to you?

bet the pot, your hand is very weak, maybe you can take it down???

again, what is interesting about this BB special hand???
 
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what is interesting about this hand? BB special, and you flop bottom 2pr?

You raise a weak flop bet and see the river. They check to you?

bet the pot, your hand is very weak, maybe you can take it down???

again, what is interesting about this BB special hand???


the point of the hand analysis forum is to provide analysis, not everyone is as good of a poker player as you. that is why they post hands here. to get help, not attitude. you come off quite rude.
 
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i would tread lightly on this hand. there was no preflop raise so anybody could have anything. i'd throw out a half pot to a pot sized bet and see what happens. hopefully they both fold and you take it down.
 
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end of hh, 34 in bb

well, I shoved. i was either doubling up early or playing another tourney. When the board was 9 high, I sez to myself, self: prob. a J9 here, or mebbe A9. Well, I made a sort of kamikaze shove on the J turn and got called. Had a little laugh at myself, but then... my jaw dropped a bit:


PokerStars Game #17853419991: Tournament #90240752, $5.00+$0.50 Hold'em No Limit - Level I (10/20) - 2008/06/01 - 21:13:19 (ET)
Table '90240752 130' 9-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: JFS1986 (460 in chips)
Seat 2: nobluffsever (4800 in chips)
Seat 3: Tastybabe (1640 in chips)
Seat 4: annuska (5415 in chips)
Seat 5: Batman401 (1295 in chips)
Seat 6: un-diluted (1470 in chips)
Seat 7: DNAPoker (1420 in chips)
Seat 8: skoolyrat (1470 in chips)
Seat 9: Anthony5580 (1450 in chips)
Batman401: posts small blind 10
un-diluted: posts big blind 20
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to un-diluted [4c 3d]
Anthony5580 said, "nh"
DNAPoker: calls 20
skoolyrat: folds
Anthony5580: folds
nobluffsever said, "seems a rather slow pace for this many players"
JFS1986: folds
nobluffsever: folds
Tastybabe: calls 20
annuska: calls 20
Batman401: calls 10
un-diluted: checks
*** FLOP *** [3c 9s 4h]
nobluffsever said, " I'll make breakfast"
Batman401: checks
un-diluted: checks
DNAPoker: checks
Tastybabe: checks
annuska: bets 60
Batman401: calls 60
un-diluted: raises 160 to 220
DNAPoker: folds
Tastybabe: folds
annuska: calls 160
Batman401: calls 160
*** TURN *** [3c 9s 4h] J♥
Batman401: checks
un-diluted: bets 1230 and is all-in
annuska: calls 1230
Batman401: folds
*** RIVER *** [3c 9s 4h Jh] 3♠
*** SHOW DOWN ***
un-diluted: shows [4c 3d] (a full house, Threes full of Fours)
annuska: shows [Js 9h] (two pair, Jacks and Nines)
un-diluted collected 3220 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 3220 | Rake 0
Board [3c 9s 4h Jh 3s]
Seat 1: JFS1986 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: nobluffsever folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: Tastybabe folded on the Flop
Seat 4: annuska (button) showed [Js 9h] and lost with two pair, Jacks and Nines
Seat 5: Batman401 (small blind) folded on the Turn
Seat 6: un-diluted (big blind) showed [4c 3d] and won (3220) with a full house, Threes full of Fours
Seat 7: DNAPoker folded on the Flop
Seat 8: skoolyrat folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: Anthony5580 folded before Flop (didn't bet)



REAL lucky. heh runnin good. next hand brought quad nines
I made some actual good plays after that, but unfortunately went out 19th of 1850.
 
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the point of the hand analysis forum is to provide analysis, not everyone is as good of a poker player as you.

I gave my analysis, you may not agree.

But allow me to retort:

Y'all better players than me, have you seen some of these DA posts? I'm clearly out-matched...

AND look, they won, VNH...
 
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villian calls a raise on the flop and checks the turn with what? looks trappy I
 
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^check behind for pot control and evaluate on river. nice catch btw.
 
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yeah, was a nice catch. Like I said, it was REAL early, and I was either dbl. up or bust, and on to the next 1. I agree about checking behind 100% in almost all situations similar to this, but the player I was up against was calling any pair to the river before this hand.
 
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If the opponent is overvaluing hands like was said then why check behind?
A 400-700 bet looks more positive than a check.
If you're worried about the J on the turn, then there's plenty more cards that are going to worry you on the river.

Not saying I'm right but I think I might bet the pot or thereabouts.
 
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annuska == calling station
play == bet

I mean, yeah it sucks that two players called, but one's a donk and there's nothing scary about this board. This is early in a $5 tournament. Sometimes you're beat, but I think failing to bet here is giving a hell of a lot of credit to a field of retards.

IMO, the better pot control line here is to bet, not to check. The check has a bit more merit in position, but there's another player left to act. If we check and face a bet, what do we do? Call, most likely. Then what happens on the river? Bet or check/call, because there's no card scary enough on the river to warrant a check/fold. On the other hand, if we bet the turn and get raised, we can fold right there, saving at least one bet. As is often the case, checking can be expensive because you fail to get any information.
 
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Very interesting hand and that it counts for leads-there.
 
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