£33 NLHE: Playing 1010 against reraiser when deep stacked

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£33 NL HE: Playing 1010 against reraiser when deep stacked

Live double chance tournament where starting chips are 5000.
I took my second chance chips and won one players first chance chips of 5000 so I had a stack of 15000 roughly.

Was 2 off the button with 1010, and blinds are 50/100
2 players limp in early postion. I raise to 500.
1 off the button reraises to 1500.

Everyone then folds including limpers so I am heads up to the reraiser.
Should I fold, call or reriase to put him in for 5000.

The guy had bought in late to the tournament, and just sat down, and this was his first hand.
 
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Fold - he has position, plus you have no read on him whatsoever. Just because he has only just sat down doesn t mean he hasn't got a good hand.

It could be a donk play - what s the general standard of the tourney? But most likely you re up against an overpair or A,K.

You re deepstacked and it s early. Fold.
 
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If this is a typical 'bar poker' structure, I think I shove here. Getting to a big stack early where you can play a few more hands is a big advantage and losing to drop back to 10000 isn't a huge disaster.
 
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If this is a typical 'bar poker' structure, I think I shove here. Getting to a big stack early where you can play a few more hands is a big advantage and losing to drop back to 10000 isn't a huge disaster.

Really, this makes no sense to me, unless the guy who sat down is a complete donk you'd have to put him on a range of at least 88+, AJ+ (minor donk)

I can't see him folding with anything he's reraised so at best you're dominating 88/99 (and I think these hands are pretty unlikely) - you're racing against A,J/A,Q/A,K and you're crushed with JJ, QQ, KK, AA

Betting 4500 to win 5500

-ev move, no?
 
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unless the guy who sat down is a complete donk you'd have to put him on a range of at least 88+, AJ+ (minor donk)

Typical 'bar poker', unless OP says otherwise, yep a guy coming in late and 3-betting a bigger stack on the 1st hand without having taken his 2nd chance buy is going to heavily weight my view of him as a poor player. Range 22+, A2s+, A8o+, K9+, QJ, QT, connectors 78+, one gappers 79+

And as I said with a typical bar poker structure, self-dealing, social playing styles etc. these extra 5K in chips this early is a big, big advantage.

Now if this was a local card room or casino and the new player was greeted by any of the other players suggesting s/he was a regular or at least known then the read totally changes and I probably lay down TT here so as not to be OOP in a pot that the opponent is priced in to calling any bet post-flop.
 
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This really depends on the place you are at and the people that are usually there. Where I play everyone is amazingly passive pre flop with the exception of 1 or 2 guys. With most player there I would even lay down JJ or QQ to a pre flop 3 bet because their 3 bet range is so tight that we would be crushed. Obviously if you have never played there before and never seen this guy that could be totally irrelevant and he may be 3 betting you with any Ace or any pair....
 
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Typical 'bar poker', unless OP says otherwise, yep a guy coming in late and 3-betting a bigger stack on the 1st hand without having taken his 2nd chance buy is going to heavily weight my view of him as a poor player. Range 22+, A2s+, A8o+, K9+, QJ, QT, connectors 78+, one gappers 79+

And as I said with a typical bar poker structure, self-dealing, social playing styles etc. these extra 5K in chips this early is a big, big advantage.

Now if this was a local card room or casino and the new player was greeted by any of the other players suggesting s/he was a regular or at least known then the read totally changes and I probably lay down TT here so as not to be OOP in a pot that the opponent is priced in to calling any bet post-flop.

Pretty much this imo, with the shitty structures and bad players I think I would be getting it in here, trying to get a big stack early so I can apply pressure on all the loose passive fish.
 
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