$30 vip points NL HE MTT: Was I pot committed

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pokerstars, Hold'em No Limit - 1,250/2,500 (250 ante) - 7 players
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seventh08 (UTG): 42,126 (17 bb)
Kappaman666 (MP): 108,540 (43 bb)
pavel1111111 (MP+1): 17,186 (7 bb)
ratbat615 (CO): 15,314 (6 bb)
19980706500 (BU): 22,726 (9 bb)
Spheremaster (SB): 17,052 (7 bb)
Eng Ramos SP (BB): 95,056 (38 bb)

Pre-Flop:
(5,500) Hero (ratbat615) is CO with 7 9
3 players fold, ratbat615 (CO) raises to 5,000, 19980706500 (BU) calls 5,000, 1 fold, Eng Ramos SP (BB) calls 2,500

Flop: (18,000) 9 6 Q (3 players)
Eng Ramos SP (BB) bets 18,000, ratbat615 (CO) calls 10,064 (all-in), 19980706500 (BU) folds

Turn: (38,128) A (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: (38,128) 8 (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: 38,128

Showdown:
Eng Ramos SP (BB) shows Q 4 (a pair of Queens)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 53%, Flop: 75%, Turn: 89%, River: 100%)
ratbat615 (CO) shows 7 9 (a pair of Nines)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 47%, Flop: 25%, Turn: 11%, River: 0%)

Eng Ramos SP (BB) wins 38,128

per flop; I pick up 97os my favorite 😍 hand so I min raise both the blinds call so now I only have 4bb left.

Flop: Q 6 9 flop one ☝️ spade so the sb checks and the bb bets enough to put me all in. I knew I was behind but with back doors 🚪 I can’t fold can I.

So what would you do ?? And was I pot committed?? Thank you for your comments .
 
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You are never pot commited. I would fold hard and then wait for AA or maybe go all in any A once you are like 1 BB
 
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if it is your favorit hand you should shove, with 6BB it is push / fold play
 
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Agree on the fact that its not a good view to min-bet this hand, only push or fold on your side under 10bbs definitely. However I would actually fold 97s from that position.
 
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I wouldn't have played 97s. Yes, very short stacked at this point, but surely there would be a better spot to get it in yet.
 
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With 6BB left and the big stack in the BB, I think I would have folded preflop. That short you dont have much fold equity. Even pocket 2's here maybe a fold as agai your to short to probally get the big stack to fold here if you 50/50 at best.

As played on the flop I think the push was OK. You are not happy but have most likely 5 outs to beat he Queen if they have it.
 
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er flop; I pick up 97os my favorite 😍 hand so I min raise both the blinds call so now I only have 4bb left.
As short stacked as you were, I don't understand your raise preflop with that hand. A shove would've been a more appropriate decision, but a fold even better. After the flop, you had to go for it.
 
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With such a big stack, with such big blinds, in such a situation, with this card, you can easily go all-in pre-flop in the hope that you will be able to take the pot without showing, but if someone calls with Ax or broadway cards, maybe with a split pair, there is nothing to think about, the hand goes all the way and hopefully we can win with two live cards on the river :unsure:...
 
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After some thoughts 💭 I see that a shove was the move thank you 🙏.
 
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Agree on the fact that its not a good view to min-bet this hand, only push or fold on your side under 10bbs definitely. However I would actually fold 97s from that position.
Thank you 🙏 for your comment my favorite 😻 hand 🤚
 
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With 6BB left and the big stack in the BB, I think I would have folded preflop. That short you dont have much fold equity. Even pocket 2's here maybe a fold as agai your to short to probally get the big stack to fold here if you 50/50 at best.

As played on the flop I think the push was OK. You are not happy but have most likely 5 outs to beat he Queen if they have it.
Thank you 🙏 my thoughts exactly
 
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As short stacked as you were, I don't understand your raise preflop with that hand. A shove would've been a more appropriate decision, but a fold even better. After the flop, you had to go for it.
Thank you for your comment
 
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With such a big stack, with such big blinds, in such a situation, with this card, you can easily go all-in pre-flop in the hope that you will be able to take the pot without showing, but if someone calls with Ax or broadway cards, maybe with a split pair, there is nothing to think about, the hand goes all the way and hopefully we can win with two live cards on the river :unsure:...
My thought 💭 thank you 🙏
 
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As others have said, we should not have a min-raising range with 6BB, unless maybe if we want to get tricky with pocket aces, and our opponents wont pick up on this. But barring that its a pure push-fold situation. So the answer is, that the moment you decided to not fold, you were committed to the pot, and you should have moved all-in. And even a chip leader will normally not call a 6BB jam with something as bad as Q4o, so playing your hand correctly might well have changed the outcome, depending on what BTN had.

 
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When you open the pot with a raise and that raise represent 1/3 of your stack it's a shove preflop.
When you have less than 10 BB you have to push/fold preflop.
IMO 97s is the bottom of your shoving range in this spot.
 
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