$3 NLHE STT Turbo: Pocket 2s.. hero has big chip lead 6 left pays 4

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Stars 3$ 18 man 6 left
2 all ins from donkish , hero has chips and in SB, BB is a reg
Hero ???

pokerstars - $3.16+$0.34|200/400 NL - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3: http://www.pokertracker.com
CO: 3,920.00
BTN: 5,710.00
Hero (SB): 9,585.00
BB: 3,092.00
UTG: 2,763.00
MP: 1,930.00
CO posts ante 25.00, BTN posts ante 25.00, Hero posts ante 25.00, BB posts ante 25.00, UTG posts ante 25.00, MP posts ante 25.00, Hero posts SB 200.00, BB posts BB 400.00
Pre Flop: (750.00) Hero has 2c 2h
UTG raises to 2,738.00 and is all-in, MP calls 1,905.00 and is all-in, fold, fold,
 
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Stars 3$ 18 man 6 left
2 all ins from donkish , hero has chips and in SB, BB is a reg
Hero ???

PokerStars - $3.16+$0.34|200/400 NL - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3: http://www.pokertracker.com
CO: 3,920.00
BTN: 5,710.00
Hero (SB): 9,585.00
BB: 3,092.00
UTG: 2,763.00
MP: 1,930.00
CO posts ante 25.00, BTN posts ante 25.00, Hero posts ante 25.00, BB posts ante 25.00, UTG posts ante 25.00, MP posts ante 25.00, Hero posts SB 200.00, BB posts BB 400.00
Pre Flop: (750.00) Hero has 2c 2h
UTG raises to 2,738.00 and is all-in, MP calls 1,905.00 and is all-in, fold, fold,

The size of the blinds and the fact that two people have shoved means that at best you would be against 2 over cards. You are receiving 1:2 pot odds, however you are 24bb deep. Plugging 33% into pokerstove you receive the range of 55+ for pocket pairs.

I'm guessing UTG had like JJ and MP had something like AQ?
 
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The size of the blinds and the fact that two people have shoved means that at best you would be against 2 over cards. You are receiving 1:2 pot odds, however you are 24bb deep. Plugging 33% into pokerstove you receive the range of 55+ for pocket pairs.

I'm guessing UTG had like JJ and MP had something like AQ?

4 overcards actually, nt.

Yeah fold. the fact we have a big stack actually makes us tighter in all in spots like this, not looser.
 
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fold, probably calling like 88+
 
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*walks in late*

Fold. Someone is either getting knocked out or crippled here, with the other one becoming just a medium stack, which actually improves our ability to play the big stack bully on the bubble.

I'm rusty so IDK exactly what the right calling/pushing range would be here, but my gut says maybe TT+/AK?
 
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The size of the blinds and the fact that two people have shoved means that at best you would be against 2 over cards. You are receiving 1:2 pot odds, however you are 24bb deep. Plugging 33% into pokerstove you receive the range of 55+ for pocket pairs.

I'm guessing UTG had like JJ and MP had something like AQ?

fold, probably calling like 88+

*walks in late*

Fold. Someone is either getting knocked out or crippled here, with the other one becoming just a medium stack, which actually improves our ability to play the big stack bully on the bubble.

I'm rusty so IDK exactly what the right calling/pushing range would be here, but my gut says maybe TT+/AK?
Thats a bigger range than I expected
5s,8s,Ts
 
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FWIW Rory's method doesn't really work because it's not taking ICM or the bubble factor into account - I'm pretty sure 55+ is too loose.

88+ / TT+ is much closer, and Pascal will be a lot less rusty than I am :p
 
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Insta-fold. You don't have a big enough chip lead to be calling 2 allins when you (should) know you're not favored. Plus no matter which of them wins, it's not bad for you.
 
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Definitely fold. It is absolutely enticing looking at knocking out 2 people and getting ITM, but 22 is not the hand to do it. Against one player you are hoping for a coin flip at best, against 2 players you will be either trying to avoid four overcards or hit a set. Just sit down (hopefully the smaller stack gets knocked out in this hand) and wait to get ITM
 
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Easy easy easy fold, not calling here without 77+. Just two tough to sweat the 4 overcards for those odds.
 
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