$3.5 NLHE MTT: $3,5 NLHE MTT: PokerStars 3,5+R FT Call or Fold?

[Greedyone]

That's the first hand of the 3,5+R SNG Final Table on pokerstars, the Villain is a pretty good reg. Is this a fold by ICM? What range you think he shoves?

https://upswingpoker.com/hand/?pokeit=924tMZSkD

 

[fundiver199]

I don’t know, what ICM-software would say, but for me this would be a call against everyone except a huge nit. You had 14 blinds, and while there were 3 shorter stacks at the table, the first 3 payjumps at the final table is typically insignificant, and they were not that short, so there was not a lot of ICM-pressure going on here. Your goal now is to reach top 3, for that you need more chips, and this seemed like a perfectly fine spot to try and win them.

Also would you have questions about this hand, if the Villain had not made a flush? Probably not and then you are really just annoyed, that he put a bad beat on you in a situation, where most of the time you will end up with a split pot. And yes that is annoying, but it obviously does not mean, you made a mistake. Even AA will sometimes lose to another AA, because 4 cards of the same suit come of the table. It just is, what it is.

 

[Collin Moshman]

Calling here is correct. Using ICM software as Fundiver suggests, the shover is supposed to be on a range of top 39%. I think most players will be slightly tighter than this, but either way your Nash calling range goes down to 99/AJo/ATs so AQs will be correct even if he's tighter.

This is an interesting spot and one where my range would have been wrong as in-game I would have definitely folded AJo because of ICM. Interesting it's this wide!

 

[jordanbillie]

I'm pretty much always snap stacking here. GL, GG.

 

[Greedyone]

I don’t know, what ICM-software would say, but for me this would be a call against everyone except a huge nit. You had 14 blinds, and while there were 3 shorter stacks at the table, the first 3 payjumps at the final table is typically insignificant, and they were not that short, so there was not a lot of ICM-pressure going on here. Your goal now is to reach top 3, for that you need more chips, and this seemed like a perfectly fine spot to try and win them.

Also would you have questions about this hand, if the Villain had not made a flush? Probably not and then you are really just annoyed, that he put a bad beat on you in a situation, where most of the time you will end up with a split pot. And yes that is annoying, but it obviously does not mean, you made a mistake. Even AA will sometimes lose to another AA, because 4 cards of the same suit come of the table. It just is, what it is.

Yeah if I hadn't lost the hand probably I would just move on. It's funny that the hands we lost are the ones we learn the most. I will try to do a depth analysis of the hands I won too. But I thought, at the table, exactly what you describe: "I think this is close but is my chance to get 1st place".

I asked here because I used a ICM-software and restricted his range. After that the software showed a fold situation, so I wasn't sure if I was doing the right range for him.

Anyway I was proud of me for calling this because at the table I was VERY inclined to fold, scared of being eliminated in 9th. I think one of the steps to become a better player is neutralize the "intuitive and emotional" player and, besides losing, I think I did the best play.