3.30 SnG - 88 call for set value

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Marky1984

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Stacks: - JsWeiss11 with 3745 - ceezatm with 4785 - _KBR96_ with 7890 - a-uxd with 2720 - Marky1984 with 2730 - intelladog with 9295 - dbldeadend with 7295 - bbgator00 with 9125

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Blinds: 50/100
Site: full tilt poker
* - Dealt to Marky1984:
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* - Sklansky group 4
Preflop:
* - jsweiss11 raises to 300
**- 1 players fold.
* - _kbr96_ calls [300]
**- 1 players fold.
* - marky1984 calls [300]
**- 2 players fold.
* - bbgator00 calls [200]
* - Total folds this street: 4
* - Potsize: 1250
Flop:
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* - bbgator00 checks
* - JsWeiss11 checks
* - _KBR96_ checks
* - marky1984 bets [1,050]
**- 2 players fold.
* - _kbr96_ raises to 2,100
* - marky1984 raises to 2,430, and is all in
* - _kbr96_ calls [330]
* - Marky1984 shows :
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* - _KBR96_ shows :
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* - Total folds this street: 2
* - Potsize: 6110
Turn:
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* - Potsize: 6110
River:
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* - Marky1984 shows a full house, Eights full of Queens
* - _KBR96_ shows a straight, King high
* - Marky1984 wins the pot (6,110) with a full house, Eights full of Queens

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flop bet too big? or should ive just put it in on flop to protect against draws? would have shoved any turn anyway... could have played c/c til i hit my boat to beat a possible slowplayed monster, but this is a no brainer imo, i'm still ahead against cold called overpair, 2 pair, (monster) draws...

thx & best regards
 
c9h13no3

c9h13no3

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My main issue with this hand is playing it for set value. You're calling off a big chunk of your stack (300 chips) preflop. If you wiff this flop, you just took a pretty decent hit to your stack. There's a lot of limpers in front of you. I shove this preflop all day at a table this loose. Picking up that 950 chips preflop would be mucho-nice. I just don't think you're quite getting odds to set-mine here. The general rule is 12:1, and you don't have 3600 chips left that you can earn if you hit your set.

After the flop, you should have shoved, since any bet commits you.
 
Dorkus Malorkus

Dorkus Malorkus

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I dunno about shoving this preflop - against an average UTG raising range we're pretty crushed here. We have a comfortable stack, no need to go jeopardising it all in a situation like this.

Preflop is the only questionable part of the hand for the reasons c9h already posted, but I probably toss this pf as opposed to shoving. As played, the flop is absolutely fine, you were just unlucky to run into such a huge hand (and you can't really allow for someone calling a UTG raise with J9s, heh).
 
shinedown.45

shinedown.45

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My main issue with this hand is playing it for set value. You're calling off a big chunk of your stack (300 chips) preflop. If you wiff this flop, you just took a pretty decent hit to your stack. There's a lot of limpers in front of you. I shove this preflop all day at a table this loose. Picking up that 950 chips preflop would be mucho-nice. I just don't think you're quite getting odds to set-mine here. The general rule is 12:1, and you don't have 3600 chips left that you can earn if you hit your set.

After the flop, you should have shoved, since any bet commits you.
He may be calling a chunk of his stack, but with a table this loose I think Implied odds play a big part in playing for set value, if he didn't hit easy fold and still has 2400 (M=16)which is plenty to play on this table.
And as for the push on the turn, you want to go all-in here to chase away any drawing hands.
 
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Marky1984

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thx everybody

ch9 youre right regarding my stack size : call for set value. but since this loose bigstack called, i just wanted to play that pot for eventually gettin even tripled up. and yeh, wouldve had enough chips remaining if i had to fold the flop :)
 
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