$3.30 NLHE MTT: $500 Grntd missed flush/tiny river bet

[1luckysob]

This was within my first couple of hands on Bovada so no reads and no info...

UTG: 1,680
UTG+1: 2,060
UTG+2[Hero]: 1,560
UTG+3: 1,420
UTG+4 1,435
BTN: 1,420
SB: 1,460
BB: 1,500

SB posts 20, BB posts 40
Pre Flop: (60) Hero has

UTG folds, folds, Hero raises 120, folds, folds, folds, folds, BB calls 80

Flop: (260, 2 players)

BB checks, Hero bets 120, BB calls 120

Turn: (500, 2 players)

BB checks, Hero checks

River: (500, 2 players)


BB bets 40, Hero.....???

probably should not have checked the turn

 

[1luckysob]

what kind of range are we looking at from him here? if played as is up to river are we flatting, or do we have enough FE to justify re-raising here?

 

[OMGITSOVER9K]

should've bet bigger on the flop, betting the turn doesn't achieve much since he's now less likely to fold 2nd pair hands and if he has an 8 then you're screwed.

I don't think you make much fold to a raise apart from A high, but since you checked the turn you aren't repping anything (this isn't apparent to a drooler though)

I probably call to see him show J4o.

 

[ManicLombax]

I think it's fine all around. Just call the river. You're beating most no-pair hands. He's probably extracting max value from you with his rivered straight or full house.

 

[baudib1]

Bet the turn.

 

[ManicLombax]

Bet the turn.

Actually, yeah. Was just going to edit my post to suggest that. Unless he's a total station, the 8 is a pretty safe card to double barrel.

 

[OMGITSOVER9K]

why bet the turn? it means you're repping 8 or air.. and its going to be air a lot of the time here isn't it?

not contradicting, just want your thought process.

 

[duggs]

why bet the turn? it means you're repping 8 or air.. and its going to be air a lot of the time here isn't it?

not contradicting, just want your thought process.

your percieved value range is alot wider than 8x, its more like 99+, sets, A high, Flush draws, combo draws.

 

[Arjonius]

your percieved value range is alot wider than 8x, its more like 99+, sets, A high, Flush draws, combo draws.

Seems a bit too wide. Given that you raised pre-, quite a few players at this level will assume you don't have a set because they would have limped 33 55 or 88.

 

[baudib1]

why bet the turn? it means you're repping 8 or air.. and its going to be air a lot of the time here isn't it?

not contradicting, just want your thought process.

The turn is a bad card for any hand that doesn't have an 8 and cuts down on his number of flopped sets. This is a donkament so there's no guarantee villain even realizes we have cards.

 

[BlueNowhere]

Basically what has been said. Flop bigger and barrel turn.

 

[duggs]

This is a donkament so there's no guarantee villain even realizes we have cards.

I love this quote

 

[BlueNowhere]

I love this quote

+1, made me chuckle when I read it.

 

[MasterOfDisaster]

+1, made me chuckle when I read it.

I lolled :icon_shak