$3.3 NLHE MTT: Where is mistake?

[1sunchin]

Replay will be posted after answers.

Hero 1numismat

pokerstars, $2.94 + $0.36 - Hold'em No Limit - 200/400 (25 ante) - 8 players

H. Moura BR (UTG): 9,586 (24 bb)
Loeyly (UTG+1): 6,493 (16 bb)
opitmusprime (MP): 16,088 (40 bb)
lacos7e (MP+1): 8,683 (22 bb)
Tv1x310 (CO): 15,373 (38 bb)
1numismat (BU): 16,520 (41 bb)
1NAB (SB): 18,913 (47 bb)
Communist654 (BB): 15,050 (38 bb)

Pre-Flop: (800) Hero (1numismat) is BTN with K♦ Q♦
4 players fold, Tv1x310 (CO) raises to 800, 1numismat (BU) calls 800, 1 fold, Communist654 (BB) calls 400

Flop: (2,800) 9♠ Q♥ T♥ (3 players)
Communist654 (BB) checks, Tv1x310 (CO) checks, 1numismat (BU) bets 800, Communist654 (BB) folds, Tv1x310 (CO) raises to 2,400, 1numismat (BU) calls 1,600

Turn: (7,600) T♣ (2 players)
Tv1x310 (CO) checks, 1numismat (BU) checks

River: (7,600) T♦ (2 players)
Tv1x310 (CO) bets 12,148 (all-in), 1numismat (BU) - ?

 

[Sidetracked]

I would find it very hard to fold my full house there.

 

[JordanH]

Tv1x310 is signalling on the flop that he has a very strong hand. At that point you only had TP and a gutshot. His check on the turn seems an attempt to get you to bet, or at least to keep you in the hand. His shove on the river (IMHO) is almost guaranteed to mean that he has a very strong hand, likely better than you.

 

[1sunchin]

Replay will be posted after answers.

Hero 1numismat

PokerStars, $2.94 + $0.36 - Hold'em No Limit - 200/400 (25 ante) - 8 players

H. Moura BR (UTG): 9,586 (24 bb)
Loeyly (UTG+1): 6,493 (16 bb)
opitmusprime (MP): 16,088 (40 bb)
lacos7e (MP+1): 8,683 (22 bb)
Tv1x310 (CO): 15,373 (38 bb)
1numismat (BU): 16,520 (41 bb)
1NAB (SB): 18,913 (47 bb)
Communist654 (BB): 15,050 (38 bb)

Pre-Flop: (800) Hero (1numismat) is BTN with K♦ Q♦
4 players fold, Tv1x310 (CO) raises to 800, 1numismat (BU) calls 800, 1 fold, Communist654 (BB) calls 400

Flop: (2,800) 9♠ Q♥ T♥ (3 players)
Communist654 (BB) checks, Tv1x310 (CO) checks, 1numismat (BU) bets 800, Communist654 (BB) folds, Tv1x310 (CO) raises to 2,400, 1numismat (BU) calls 1,600

Turn: (7,600) T♣ (2 players)
Tv1x310 (CO) checks, 1numismat (BU) checks

River: (7,600) T♦ (2 players)
Tv1x310 (CO) bets 12,148 (all-in), 1numismat (BU) - ?

https://www.cardschat.com/replayer/224YDVbXL

 

[fundiver199]

Preflop
Folding would be way to tight, but personally I prefer 3-betting over calling. It tends to make everything much easier, and if I face a 4-bet jam, I dont mind folding KQs. Calling is certainly a profitable play as well though, and folding would be way to tight against a CO open.

Flop
This is one of those situations, where our hand look a lot better, than it actually is. Yes we have top pair second kicker, but made straights are possible, and we cant get value from hands like QT or Q9, because they outflopped us with 2 pair. Even QJ is not that far behind with an OESD. We also dont have a flushdraw or even a BDFD, so for me personally this is a check behind for pot control.

You go for a small bet though, and now the preflop raiser check-raise. This is of course very strong action, but at the same time you could have induced it with your sizing, which look very weak especially on a wet board like this. So I guess, we have to call and at least see, what happen on the turn. We also have a gutshot, which is at least a little bit of something, in case we are behind.

Turn
Very happy to see the board pair with a T and very happy, he check to us. Clearly checking behind for pot control.

River
Now another T comes putting 3 of a kind on the board, and the opponent moves all in. I dont think, AT, KT or JT check-raise the flop, and I also dont think, KK or AA runs this bizarre line with a check-raise on the flop, a check on the turn and then an overbet jam on the river. The most likely nut hands, that could play like this, are QT, T9 and maybe QQ, since these hands turned a boat, and its not uncommon for people to slowplay a boat. There are only 6 combos of those hands, but JordanH do have a point, that a strange stop-and-go line like this is often the nuts. So maybe there is some argument for folding to the river jam, but I would not be good enough to make that fold in real time.

 

[theANMATOR]

I'm calling 8 days a week and twice on Sundays. Now I'm gonna go watch the replayer - I'm guessing villain has A/Q before I watch.

Edit: Yep I was wrong - yep that happens sometimes. Still I'm gonna go broke in that spot often.

 

[AKQ]

I'm calling 8 days a week and twice on Sundays. Now I'm gonna go watch the replayer - I'm guessing villain has A/Q before I watch.

Edit: Yep I was wrong - yep that happens sometimes. Still I'm gonna go broke in that spot often.

NO WAY am i ever gonna fold here unless i have a read of KK AA on my opponent