$.25 NLHE MTT: facing huge donk on multiway with TP (no kicker) and flush draw

tewwa94

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SB was doing some crazy stuff a few hands before, the thing is: is it worth it? Idk if I would've do the same on a bigger MTT, I don't think it was that bad of a play by myself so I need some opinions :)

pokerstars - 15/30 Ante 4 NL - Holdem - 7 players
Hand converted by Holdem Manager 3

BTN: 1,922 (64.1 bb)
SB: 996 (33.2 bb)
Hero (BB): 1,869 (62.3 bb)
UTG: 1,879 (62.6 bb)
UTG+1: 2,458 (81.9 bb)
MP: 1,597 (53.2 bb)
CO: 1,632 (54.4 bb)

7 players post ante of 4, SB posts 15, Hero posts BB 30

Pre Flop: (pot: 73) Hero has :2c4: :kc4:
UTG raises to 90, 4 folds, SB calls 75, Hero calls 60

Flop: (298, 3 players) :8c4: :kd4: :4c4:
SB bets 870, Hero raises to 1,775 and is all-in, UTG calls 1,775, SB calls 32 and is all-in

Turn: (4,750, 3 players) :8h4:

River: (4,750, 3 players) :10d4:

Results: 4,750 pot (0 rake)
Final Board: :8c4: :kd4: :4c4: :8h4: :10d4:

Hero shows :2c4: :kc4:: (Two Pair, Kings and Eights)
Main Pot: [3,004]: (Pre 20%, Flop 41%, Turn 27%)
Side Pot: [1,746]: (Pre 29%, Flop 41%, Turn 27%)

UTG shows :kh4: :js4:: (Two Pair, Kings and Eights)
Main Pot: [3,004]: (Pre 43%, Flop 56%, Turn 73%)
Side Pot: [1,746]: (Pre 71%, Flop 59%, Turn 73%)

SB shows :10c4: :qc4:: (Two Pair, Tens and Eights)
Main Pot: [3,004]: (Pre 37%, Flop 3%, Turn 0%)

UTG wins 4,750
 
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K2s is pretty weak, but I understand you protecting your blind. As soon as SB shoved in 870 into a 300 pot, I'm out. You still have the early raiser behind you. What did he come in with, AA, AK, KQ, Ax clubs?

I would have folded to such an insane bet if I only had 60 chips in. Let the SB have this pot. He is to your right, so you can get his chips when you feel more confident in your hand.
 
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SB was doing some crazy stuff a few hands before, the thing is: is it worth it? Idk if I would've do the same on a bigger MTT, I don't think it was that bad of a play by myself so I need some opinions :)

PokerStars - 15/30 Ante 4 NL - Holdem - 7 players
Hand converted by Holdem Manager 3

BTN: 1,922 (64.1 bb)
SB: 996 (33.2 bb)
Hero (BB): 1,869 (62.3 bb)
UTG: 1,879 (62.6 bb)
UTG+1: 2,458 (81.9 bb)
MP: 1,597 (53.2 bb)
CO: 1,632 (54.4 bb)

7 players post ante of 4, SB posts 15, Hero posts BB 30

Pre Flop: (pot: 73) Hero has :2c4: :kc4:
UTG raises to 90, 4 folds, SB calls 75, Hero calls 60

Flop: (298, 3 players) :8c4: :kd4: :4c4:
SB bets 870, Hero raises to 1,775 and is all-in, UTG calls 1,775, SB calls 32 and is all-in

Turn: (4,750, 3 players) :8h4:

River: (4,750, 3 players) :10d4:

Results: 4,750 pot (0 rake)
Final Board: :8c4: :kd4: :4c4: :8h4: :10d4:

Hero shows :2c4: :kc4:: (Two Pair, Kings and Eights)
Main Pot: [3,004]: (Pre 20%, Flop 41%, Turn 27%)
Side Pot: [1,746]: (Pre 29%, Flop 41%, Turn 27%)

UTG shows :kh4: :js4:: (Two Pair, Kings and Eights)
Main Pot: [3,004]: (Pre 43%, Flop 56%, Turn 73%)
Side Pot: [1,746]: (Pre 71%, Flop 59%, Turn 73%)

SB shows :10c4: :qc4:: (Two Pair, Tens and Eights)
Main Pot: [3,004]: (Pre 37%, Flop 3%, Turn 0%)

UTG wins 4,750

Thank you for posting

We want to develop an understanding of ranges
So we want to look at this occurrence and compare it to other similar situations where V makes big bets

What does this mean on average?

Most of the time at your buy in it means exactly what it was

So with that in mind what would be the best course of action for half your stack?

Hope this Helps
 
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I would have folded preflop. But when you flopped top pair (even with no kicker) AND a flushdraw, there is no getting away from this hand postflop. It sucks, that UTG had you outkicked, but you still got it in with 43% equity in the main 3-way pot and 29% in the side pot. So its not like, you are donating chips here. You just needed a 2 or a club to scoop the whole pot, which unfortunately did not come this time. It is, what it is.
 
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