$22 NLHE MTT: ITM saturday 6 max hand

[duggs]

$20+$2|1500/3000 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3: http://www.pokertracker.com

SB: 115,203.00
BB: 139,526.00
UTG: 190,630.00
Hero (CO): 131,491.00
BTN: 181,129.00

SB posts ante 300.00, BB posts ante 300.00, UTG posts ante 300.00, Hero posts ante 300.00, BTN posts ante 300.00, SB posts SB 1,500.00, BB posts BB 3,000.00

Pre Flop: (6000.00) Hero has Ac 7c

fold, Hero raises to 6,000.00, fold, SB calls 4,500.00, BB calls 3,000.00

Flop: (19500.00, 3 players) Ad 6s Tc
SB checks, BB bets 9,750.00, Hero calls 9,750.00, fold

Turn: (39000.00, 2 players) 4c
BB bets 19,500.00, Hero calls 19,500.00

River: (78000.00, 2 players) 8h
BB bets 39,000.00, Hero??????
history
i have been running over table
BB is a fish and UTG is a sicko reg so i havent been playing many hands v him,
previously bb donk/check/check called A3 on a 45Jxx board
where i opened QJ, he donk lead and shut down oop and hero'd river
villain is running at 19/11/0 but had significantly loosened up,(109 hands)
will def be flatting AJ A10 imo, maybe AQ. last time he donk lead on a dry J high board i raise/folded to him.
I dont think/think its quite unlikely he is capable of tripling air here.

how should i play every street?
when hand went down about 35 left in saturday 22 6max.

 

[duggs]

bump help please

 

[thebigdawg]

I would have probably folded on the flop bet. As high as them blinds are you got to think that somebody called you pre-flop raise with A9/A10/AJ because they didn't feel comfortable going over the top.

 

[Jurn8]

what kind of fish is he?

 

[baudib1]

I think river's a puke fold.

 

[duggs]

I would have probably folded on the flop bet. As high as them blinds are you got to think that somebody called you pre-flop raise with A9/A10/AJ because they didn't feel comfortable going over the top.

given he donked a gutterball previously i think folding flop is incredibly weak.

 

[duggs]

what kind of fish is he?

um, has no c/r range, will donk lead most of his range that isnt c/c. he cant hand read or bet size properly, any time he has stabbed at the pot (light) has been a single bullet rather than multiple bullets. he was running quite tight and has been c/f alot to my raise his bb and cbet initially. then started donking and calling down. I dont give him credit for narrowing his range multiway, dont give him credit for firing air on 2 streets, also expect him to bet AJ and A9 on river cause he has top pair. i also expect him to flat like 70% from the bb multiway when i open.
Im unsure if he would bet 3 streets with a worse Ace.

 

[BlueNowhere]

Yea never fold flop. Top pair plus backdoor FDs and SDs is more than enough to carry on. Turn pretty much have to call. River is just shit, I think a fish hardly ever has worse though with this line (especially kind described).

 

[JohnBoyWWFC]

Honestly, with the reads you state, I'm just folding turn. You're ahead a decent amount but it sounds like this guy is a decent spot to iso and rob money from, why risk a bunch of chips in a marginal spot?

 

[duggs]

Honestly, with the reads you state, I'm just folding turn. You're ahead a decent amount but it sounds like this guy is a decent spot to iso and rob money from, why risk a bunch of chips in a marginal spot?

valid point, but a club or a 7 on the river and we can stack him most times

 

[BlueNowhere]

You fold a turned NFD + tp with 3-1 immediate odds and another street of betting to take place whilst IP against a very bad villain?

I really think turn plays itself.

 

[JohnBoyWWFC]

You're right. Missed the FD. I'm Folding river though with the previous history.

 

[duggs]

I think river's a puke fold.

i tend to agree, whats your plan on blank turns?
also whats everyones plan on 7r turns

 

[Loonbat]

I like a raise on the flop and if he calls, c/c the turn.

 

[Loonbat]

And then fold to a river bet.

 

[duggs]

I like a raise on the flop and if he calls, c/c the turn.

are you suggesting raise/fold flop or get it in?
either seems bad

 

[Jurn8]

dont raise the flop we arent strong enough to call a shove unless hes a complete spaz whos shoving 2nd pair. flat to keep his weak pairs/draws and air in.

river is a pretty stando fold I think, by what sort of fish i meant is he passive (40/2) or aggro (35/25ish)

 

[duggs]

folding turn if we dont pick up flush draw then?

his BB bb vpip would have been close to 75% imo. but he was no aggressive at all, hadnt 3bet once in 109 hands.

 

[duggs]

running at 19/11 over 109 hands, but that includes some exceptional nit bubbling. much much looser ITM.

 

[Jurn8]

im happy with folding turn if we dont pick up a FD

 

[duggs]

cool thanks for the input guys.

 

[Loonbat]

are you suggesting raise/fold flop or get it in?
either seems bad

I think flatting the flop and then doing the same on the turn is worse than r/f the flop. I hate the line that some advocate for flatting along here. The raise is to fold out the competent UTG and get a call from the fishy BB, who (as described) will call with less. Flatting sets up UTG to apply pressure on the turn.

 

[duggs]

I think flatting the flop and then doing the same on the turn is worse than r/f the flop. I hate the line that some advocate for flatting along here. The raise is to fold out the competent UTG and get a call from the fishy BB, who (as described) will call with less. Flatting sets up UTG to apply pressure on the turn.

UTG is not in hand, and raising flop reps nothing so would be more likely to be played back at than a flat is(if said villian was in hand).

 

[Loonbat]

UTG is not in hand, and raising flop reps nothing so would be more likely to be played back at than a flat is(if said villian was in hand).

Saw UTG mentioned and assumed he was in hand when skimmed HH. Sorry ...

Having said that, nothing else in my analysis really changes. Given you were pfr, how does a flop raise "rep nothing"?

 

[baudib1]

Flop raise is beyond horrible given reads/history.