$22 NLHE MTT: AQo (BTN). Villain (CO) opens 40k (2x), Hero 3bets to 108k (5.4x), Vil 4bets All in?

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$22 NLHE MTT: AQo (BTN). Villain (CO) opens 40k (2x), Hero 3bets to 108k (5.4x), Vil 4bets All in?

This was pretty late in the tourney, final two tables (about 16 or 17 players left).
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NL Holdem $20000(BB)
HJ ($409008) [VPIP: 27% | PFR: 19% | AGG: 20.9% | 3-Bet: 8.2% | hands: 680]
CO ($899088) [VPIP: 25.9% | PFR: 18.5% | AGG: 20.7% | 3-Bet: 6.5% | Hands: 82]
(*Villain Notes from earlier hands* PF: Limp/Call All in = QKo, Open/Call 3bet = A6s)
HERO ($719586) [VPIP: 22.6% | PFR: 16.2% | AGG: 30% | 3-Bet: 6.6% | Hands: 57108]
SB ($173580) [VPIP: 13.7% | PFR: 8.8% | AGG: 26.3% | 3-Bet: 6.5% | Hands: 103]
BB ($704949) [VPIP: 36% | PFR: 34% | AGG: 35% | 3-Bet: 17.6% | Hands: 51]
UTG ($293960) [VPIP: 35.7% | PFR: 20.9% | AGG: 23.7% | 3-Bet: 10.9% | Hands: 116]
MP ($187774) [VPIP: 15.6% | PFR: 7.8% | AGG: 18.6% | 3-Bet: 6.7% | Hands: 257]

[B]Dealt to Hero: Q A[/B]

UTG Folds, MP Folds, HJ Folds, CO Raises To $42000, HERO Raises To $110000, SB Folds, BB Folds, CO Raises To $899088 (allin),

HERO Folds

CO wins: $260000

Results, table was full of nutcases donk shoving almost anything. We went relatively card dead for next 36 or so hands, getting dangerously close to being blinded out. We were finally dealt 66 with 4 bbs left, shoved and lost against A8o. Finished in 13th place.
 
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TheDude6622

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You have to pick your spots. AQ is a very good spot to call the all in. Seemed like you were in a coin flip situation.
 
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You have to pick your spots. AQ is a very good spot to call the all in. Seemed like you were in a coin flip situation.


I was afraid he had us dominated with AK or a high pair. You're absolutely right though, I should have definitely called that one for sure smh. The next few hands, I noticed how crazy loose these guys were playing. I wanted to get us to the final table so I didn't want to take coin flips, but if we want to win it all, we have to take those.
 
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I think, it was the correct decision to fold. AQ is typically not doing well against a 4-betting range, you were not getting a good price, and calling would have serious ICM-implications. Folding on the other hand still left you with the third largest stack of your table and a good chance to level up or even win the whole tournament. This time you did not, but that is results oriented thinking. You might as well have picked up aces or kings a few hands later and found a much better spot to dubble up.
 
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It was semi final table and I'm not happy to call all in for all our chips with AQo. If I see you have about 30bb in stack and I agree with fundiver199, you still will have third stack on your table if you fold, still good position in tournament. As played, 3bet pre flop vs CO is not stupid idea, but IMO to his all in pre flop for all our chips is fold, for me it is too risky, especially in this phase of tournament, on semi final table.
 
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I could see it going both ways. I do think that 3 bet/folding there is bad. If you do decide to 3 bet, being less than 40 BB deep, I think you have to have a plan to call. If you don't want to risk the 4 bet, then flat the raise and play a smaller pot in position.
 
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Without opening the spoiler - It's a really gross spot...AQ off suit too...I think we just find the fold here. So we have some notes on our opponent getting out of line - hes probably not 4 bet jamming on us with 90BBs with A6s or KQo. AQs would be super tough for me in this spot, I still think I have to fold - AQo to this jam - I think should be a snap fold. If we are looking to go deep in the tournament. We only risked 5.5bb with the 3bet so we can fold and still he healthy enough to play good poker. We just dont beat anything he is doing this with - hes never 4bet jamming AJs for 90BB into a 40bb stack. We are flipping at best and we are crushed otherwise- snap fold, be disciplined and move on.
 
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considering the stack sizes I don't mind the fold at all, I think it was a good one.


he 3bets 6.5% of his Hands. against a 6% Hand range (88+/AKo/AJs+) you have ~36.5% equity.
his 4bet range in this spot should be tighter. let's say it's JJ+ AK then you have ~28.5% equity
 
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I don’t mind 3-bet with AQo here, but maybe, in this situation just call would be better play. You don’t risk to many of your stack, but can play post flop very well
 
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With your 3-bet, you left yourself no choice but to all-in. Perhaps a call would be the best decision on the preflop. Although given the proximity of the final table fold on-4-bet is also possible.
 
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If you 3bet with 35bb, i think you must call. But i think this opp dont push many worst hand. So fold is ok too
 
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