$215 NLHE DeepStacked:Big hand on the road to Vanessa Kade's big win on PokerStars.

blkmoney12

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When there were 3 players left in the Anniversary, Sunday Million, at PokerStars, Vanessa 'Niffler' Kade held the chip lead with other 780,000,000 chips and Panchovetin was just over 400,000,000....Talibenes was sitting in 3rd with 180,000,000+ but was not a part of the hand I want to discuss.

Talibenes was first to act and folds. Panchovetin raises 24 million preflop with AKos Vanessa with 55, chooses to throw all the chips in the middle. Panchovetin snap calls with ace-king does not hit an ace or King and is eliminated in third place.

My question, do you think Panchovetin should have folded or called considering the ICM at stake (over $800,000)?

At approximately 4:40:00 in the video below, you can see the hand played out.

 
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I will fold, considering ICM
 
Collin Moshman

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If I were him, I wouldn't be min-raising any hand here OOP vs the chip leader. He should be limping most hands he plays, which makes her risk-reward ratio much worse for jamming. When he limps and she raises small, he then has the option to 3-bet shove and be the one to have fold equity.

As played though after he does min-raise, I agree with the call. Putting this hand into ICM software will get a better answer. Possibly it will say that calling is incorrect. But if you raise-fold AKo BvB, you're going to get massively exploited and you're just playing to ladder up.
 
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I agree with Collin Moshman. Min-raise and then folding AK cant possibly be the correct play in this situation. Of course if he thought, Vanessa was only jamming a range like small to medium pairs and another AK, then he could fold. But Vanessa is a very good player, so its highly unlikely, she is going to be that unbalanced. What I found a little bit weird though is the fact, he did not even think about it. He literally snap called, and with this much money at stake I would have taken some time to really think it through.
 
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If I were him, I wouldn't be min-raising any hand here OOP vs the chip leader. He should be limping most hands he plays, which makes her risk-reward ratio much worse for jamming. When he limps and she raises small, he then has the option to 3-bet shove and be the one to have fold equity.

As played though after he does min-raise, I agree with the call. Putting this hand into ICM software will get a better answer. Possibly it will say that calling is incorrect. But if you raise-fold AKo BvB, you're going to get massively exploited and you're just playing to ladder up.


Really great advice cheers Colin, I love CC for little gems like this. I'd never considered calling like this in order to lower the opponents risk/reward, and be the one to have the 3 bet shove option. I can see how this would really improve final table play. What a nugget of info!

If played out as above, would she call the all in? We'll never know. Personally I would find calling with 55 in that spot very hard indeed, but might do depending on opponent/unfortunately my mood at the time! I certainly wouldn't like it tho.
 
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