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This is the 20th hand of this tournament so no much info on the players. This is a slow 2 days tournament and has 3 and 1/2 late reg on it.

What would you guys do in this spot? Call, Raise or Fold.

pokerstars, $18.39 + $1.84 - Hold'em No Limit - 100/200 (25 ante) - 8 players


UTG: 20,248 (101 bb)
UTG+1: 20,868 (104 bb)
MP: 25,429 (127 bb)
MP+1: 21,073 (105 bb)
CO (Hero): 27,847 (139 bb)
BU: 19,243 (96 bb)
SB: 21,798 (109 bb)
BB: 17,952 (90 bb)

Pre-Flop: (500) Hero is CO with Q A
UTG raises to 400, 2 players fold, MP+1 3-bets to 1,200, CO (Hero)?, 3 players fold, UTG calls 800
 
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If I 4-bet AQs, I would not be willing to get it in pre against a 5-bet for 100 bigs, and raise-folding a hand as good as AQs seems like a waste. If thats the plan, I would rather 4-bet a hand like A5s from time to time. So the first option, I would rule out, is a 4-bet. The question then is, can you make a profitable call? And I think, its close.

Its bad, that its an UTG open, because that makes both players ranges much stronger than, if it was a HJ open, CO 3-bet, and you were BTN. You are also not closing action, and if someone puts in a 4-bet, you have to fold. But on the other side it is only a min-raise and a 6BB 3-bet, and you have position on both opponents. So if nobody 4-bets, you can likely play postflop pretty well. So I would not hate a call here, but if you folded, thats fine as well.
 
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If we knew something about either villain, especially the 3 bettor, then I think there are some options on the table including 4 betting. Based on that we are this deep and in position I think calling is correct. I get Fundiver's view about how we are going against what will usually be a strong UTG raising range and also going against a 3 bettor that we do not know much about. I think in position, this deep with this hand (suited makes a difference here) I think its too tight to be folding. Obviously we worry about AK and then an ace flopping and getting ourselves stuck in the hand but I would still call here as more of a speculative play in position.
 
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I take it that you folded?

Pre-Flop: (500) Hero is CO with Q A
UTG raises to 400, 2 players fold, MP+1 3-bets to 1,200, CO (Hero)?, 3 players fold, UTG calls 800

I think if you call here you are open to a squeeze play by UTG. I also think AQs is too strong not to play here. The re-raise is just to 6bb. I would call and let UTG try to squeeze. If MP+1 raises over another re-raise by UTG then I think I would have to fold because AQs isn't worth going out over without seeing the flop first.
 
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I was playing the idea of 4-bet as well, but it seems really a wasted-chips, cause any 5-bet we have to fold this striong hand which can cath the party post-flop. At least puts us in the latest position as well, so let's call. I would not fold pre to a 6bb 3bet, we have the stack, position, and opps could have several hands which we could dominate once we 're seeing the dealt board.
 
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Obviously we worry about AK and then an ace flopping and getting ourselves stuck in the hand but I would still call here as more of a speculative play in position.
In that scenario we are obviously going to lose a bunch of chips. But the SPR is so deep here, especially if UTG fold, that I think, we dont always have to stack off with a single pair. If he bomb all 3 streets, we can give him credit and fold. And we have a chance to make the nut flush or perhaps bluff him in position, if he show weakness.
 
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If we knew something about either villain, especially the 3 bettor, then I think there are some options on the table including 4 betting. Based on that we are this deep and in position I think calling is correct. I get Fundiver's view about how we are going against what will usually be a strong UTG raising range and also going against a 3 bettor that we do not know much about. I think in position, this deep with this hand (suited makes a difference here) I think its too tight to be folding. Obviously we worry about AK and then an ace flopping and getting ourselves stuck in the hand but I would still call here as more of a speculative play in position.

The only info I got is this:

MP+1 after 19 hands: VPIP 21 PFR 16
UTG after 15 hands: VPIP 27 PFR 7

Not much info on them.

Here is the full hand:

PokerStars, $18.39 + $1.84 - Hold'em No Limit - 100/200 (25 ante) - 8 players
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UTG: 20,248 (101 bb)
UTG+1: 20,868 (104 bb)
MP: 25,429 (127 bb)
MP+1: 21,073 (105 bb)
CO (Hero): 27,847 (139 bb)
BU: 19,243 (96 bb)
SB: 21,798 (109 bb)
BB: 17,952 (90 bb)

Pre-Flop: (500) Hero is CO with Q A
UTG raises to 400, 2 players fold, MP+1 3-bets to 1,200, CO (Hero) folds, 3 players fold, UTG calls 800

Flop: (2,900) A 6 3 (2 players)
UTG checks, MP+1 bets 725, UTG calls 725

Turn: (4,350) A (2 players)
UTG checks, MP+1 checks

River: (4,350) 4 (2 players)
UTG bets 4,350, MP+1 folds

Total pot: 4,350
UTG wins 4,350
 
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