$2.20 NLHE STT Turbo: Heads up in MTT, flop a straight. slow play?

[Jacki Burkhart]

Below is the hand. We are heads up in a $2.20 SnG. Blinds are 20/100/200 so starting pot is 340

It's hard to analyze a heads up hand without knowing the history. Villain (Roncos) had been shoving a lot, trying to play for stacks preflop and on the flop. If he sensed weakness, or had top pair, or even 2nd pair he would often jam. Hero (jjb1981or) was trying to play a bit slower since I felt we were deep enough to play more post flop poker, and I was basically trying to trap him into jamming on me when I had a hand.

Also, I cannot find a hand converter that works for my Carbon/Merge hands. Anybody know a good one? I went in and did a little formatting just to make it easier to read.

Merge Game #75561139-83 (Tournament) | Holdem NL | 02/14/2014 00:48:48 EST | Version:2
Table Regular - $2.20, 75560778, Seats 9 (Tournament: Regular - $2.20, 75560778)
Seat 3: jjb1981or ($6,375.00 in chips) 32BB M=18.75
Seat 9: roncos ($7,125.00 in chips) DEALER 36BB M=21
jjb1981or: Post Ante $20.00
roncos: Post Ante $20.00
roncos: Post SB $100.00
jjb1981or: Post BB $200.00
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to jjb1981or
roncos: Raise $400.00
jjb1981or: Call $200.00
*** FLOP ***
jjb1981or: Check
roncos: Bet $400.00
jjb1981or: Call $400.00
*** TURN ***
jjb1981or: Check
roncos: Check
*** RIVER ***
jjb1981or: Check
roncos: Check
*** SUMMARY ***
jjb1981or: Shows

roncos: Shows

roncos: wins $1,640.00 with a full house twos full of fives

 

[Arjonius]

I bet the flop. What's he likely to fold if I do? Almost nothing. So, with the stacks still being quite large, I want to make sure to build the pot. Plus two of the three scenarios where he jams, the ones where he has top or 2nd pair, seem less likely on this board than on many others.

I'm losing more than you did on this hand because I'm betting the turn too since I think his calling range is quite a bit wider than sets and quads.

 

[General3Bet]

Below is the hand. We are heads up in a $2.20 SnG. Blinds are 20/100/200 so starting pot is 340

It's hard to analyze a heads up hand without knowing the history. Villain (Roncos) had been shoving a lot, trying to play for stacks preflop and on the flop. If he sensed weakness, or had top pair, or even 2nd pair he would often jam. Hero (jjb1981or) was trying to play a bit slower since I felt we were deep enough to play more post flop poker, and I was basically trying to trap him into jamming on me when I had a hand.

Also, I cannot find a hand converter that works for my Carbon/Merge hands. Anybody know a good one? I went in and did a little formatting just to make it easier to read.

Merge Game #75561139-83 (Tournament) | Holdem NL | 02/14/2014 00:48:48 EST | Version:2
Table Regular - $2.20, 75560778, Seats 9 (Tournament: Regular - $2.20, 75560778)
Seat 3: jjb1981or ($6,375.00 in chips) 32BB M=18.75
Seat 9: roncos ($7,125.00 in chips) DEALER 36BB M=21
jjb1981or: Post Ante $20.00
roncos: Post Ante $20.00
roncos: Post SB $100.00
jjb1981or: Post BB $200.00
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to jjb1981or
roncos: Raise $400.00
jjb1981or: Call $200.00
*** FLOP ***
jjb1981or: Check
roncos: Bet $400.00
jjb1981or: Call $400.00
*** TURN ***
jjb1981or: Check
roncos: Check
*** RIVER ***
jjb1981or: Check
roncos: Check
*** SUMMARY ***
jjb1981or: Shows

roncos: Shows

roncos: wins $1,640.00 with a full house twos full of fives

Check call isn't a good play there, stack sizes are close and your hand is vulnerable. If you check, you let him bet a worse hand. That's important because it gives him a chance to get out of line with a lesser holding. And I would ship it on the flop to protect my hand. Even if he has the nuts, u have backdoor FD. He will bet very very often here and a donk lead sometimes smells as A3 if u haven't been leading into the preflop aggressor with trash, nevertheless he wasn't folding a set anyways.

But your hand is too vulnerable to see two more because the cards to come will complete full houses and higher straights too often, and since he's betting this flop so often, u gotta c/r to get the money in good, so it's the best move for me and that's my analogy. Especially cuz I play LAG I get paid off by light calls all the time thinking I have absolute air.

 

[rumsey182]

given stack depth we can add this into our 3 betting range or flatting if we want

c/c is fine assuming villain cbets a lot ( which is pretty safe to assume)

we could c/r but given the board we have plenty of safe runouts that i think c/c is fine but c/r gets better the more we think villain was pretty wide preflop and cbetting and if he doesn't like to fold pieces to the board

the thing is that logic makes 3 betting better pre

turn is 100% lead we can get plenty of 5X hands to stack off, likely still get called by 4X type hands as well

in the end we would have gotten stacked but 30BB and flopping a st8 it is hard to not want to get stacks in at some point without being against the tightest nit

river is lol bad for villain to not bet, how it played out checking is the only thing you can do we can only get value from AX type hands that somehow didn't cbet which seems unlikely that would actually happen

 

[WiZZiM]

yeah either c/c then lead, or lead the flop small and hope to build the pot, or hope he spazzes out and shoves. i think c/r just looks too strong, and honestly on this board, what can he really have that can continue to a raise? you just fold out overcards like KJ and whatever he plays that might continue if we take other routes.

i think i like leading here on the flop the best.

 

[PoKeRFoRNiA]

Honestly, I would've check-raised the flop, lead out on turn or even shove on turn. I would've lost way more than how you played this hand but that's because all the cards are rolled over and we know what the villain is holding. But you did mention that he was LAG and you were trapping. Since I don't have much knowledge of the dynamics of the table of how he played, if you were inducing a bluff from him, then it's completely fine the way you played it.

You were unlucky with the turn and river but fortunately, you kept the pot small that you were able to check it and lose the least possible while getting information on the villain.

 

[Poker Orifice]

lead into raiser & hope he spazzes out (as he sounds like he's done previously... if he was shipping it in on flops w MP..(which would be what?... 5x pot overshoves?))

 

[kanselau]

wow , your too good not to loose your stack here.
how does villain check back the river ?
I don't mind checking flop here but , its hard for villain to have top pair or draw so leading looks best. If hes got top pair then bingo we are getting raised.

Turn you have to bet , you need to get chips into the pot somehow. Villain wont have a 5 here a lot because he would have bet the flop, but you need to get something in the middle.

In this example if you bet turn villain is raising you and with your hand you can not ask for better heads up.

maybe ignore my advice as im busto and your not?

 

[Jacki Burkhart]

wow , your too good not to loose your stack

No.... I wanted my stack in there.... It wasn't because I smelled a big hand that I managed to save my stack....it was because we were slow playing each other and then the runout of the board saved my stack

maybe ignore my advice as im busto and your not?

I should go bust this hand... Any player should. Very strange hand