$2.20 NLHE MTT Turbo: 4bet pot BB vs SB line check turning mid pair into bluff board pairs on river

[redwards92]

$2.20 NLHE MTT Turbo: 4bet pot BB vs SB line check turning mid pair into bluff board pairs on river

first of all... longest thread title ever? is this a record? do I get a prize?

So story is I know villian is a strong TAG aware of position.

I know he can tell when I am trying to resteal


PokerStars - $3+$0.30|125/250 Ante 30 NL - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

SB: 26.12 BB (VPIP: 33.96, PFR: 3.77, 3Bet Preflop: 3.57, hands: 53)
Hero (BB): 57.5 BB
UTG: 32.38 BB (VPIP: 25.00, PFR: 25.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 4)
UTG+1: 26.86 BB (VPIP: 24.53, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 53)
UTG+2: 33.22 BB (VPIP: 27.27, PFR: 9.09, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 11)
MP: 25.48 BB (VPIP: 25.00, PFR: 8.33, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 24)
MP+1: 18.37 BB (VPIP: 18.75, PFR: 12.50, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 16)
CO: 23.79 BB (VPIP: 47.17, PFR: 11.32, 3Bet Preflop: 6.90, Hands: 53)
BTN: 65.6 BB (VPIP: 18.75, PFR: 14.06, 3Bet Preflop: 3.33, Hands: 64)

9 players post ante of 0.12 BB, SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 2.58 BB) Hero has Q♠ T♣

fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, BTN raises to 2.1 BB, fold, Hero raises to 5 BB, BTN raises to 12 BB, Hero calls 7 BB

Flop: (25.58 BB, 2 players) 8♥ 2♦ K♠
Hero checks, BTN bets 12 BB, Hero calls 12 BB

Turn: (49.58 BB, 2 players) T♥
Hero checks, BTN checks

River: (49.58 BB, 2 players) K♥
Hero bets 33.38 BB and is all-in, fold

Hero wins 49.58 BB

is it fine turning this middle pair into a bluff / maybe even value betting it thin as hell ?

basically just had a read that villian is competent and aware of position

i feel like this could definitely be really spewy but i just went with the gut which is obviously -ev lol

 

[redwards92]

oh yeah im also drunk

 

[Jostone6]

Nice defense of blind !!
I think if he shoves on turn u call, right? or if he bets u shoves overhead.
On turn your hand gets value and maybe do a value bet here because its good extract of flush draw.
the size of the pot is very attractive and you have a good hand!
U play well, i like it.

 

[duggs]

pretty bad hand selection to float 4bets with, either pick something suited, or hands that dominate the hands he can 4bet for value and as bluffs (AJ/AQ) more likely he had AQ and we got very lucky to spike a pair on the turn and he didnt fire off. if you want to try outplay him have a wide defending range where we have good pot odds, not where we have significantly reduced the SPR and hope he slows down. that K is actually not that great a card to bluff if he is competent, because only AA is now behind that wasnt before and its cuts a bunch of Kx combos out of our range.