$2.20 NLHE MTT: Bovada 27 man SNG flopped 2pr on wet board

[1luckysob]

Early in the tourn,Villain had doubled up a couple hands before with AQ vs flopped two pair with A7s and rivers the Q. I had just knocked out someone out who pushed with 25o into my AQ, two hands later this happens....

UTG.............1460
UTG+1..........1410
UTG+2[ME]........2470
UTG+3..............1470
UTG+4.............2210
BTN.............1470
SB..............2990
BB.............1480

[ME]


SB posts 10, BB posts 20, folds, folds, [ME] raises to 60, folds, folds, folds, SB calls 50, folds....

Flop: (140)

SB bets 80, [ME] raises 380, SB raises to 800.....?

 

[1luckysob]

easy fold?

 

[seanDCFC]

I wouldn't find it easy but I might just fold it, only as its soo early in the tourney. Later in the game with a good read I might get it in.

 

[BlueNowhere]

For the love of all that is holy, fold pre.

 

[1luckysob]

For the love of all that is holy, fold pre.

question wasnt "what should i do preflop"

although the comment is probably accurate that I should have folded pre , at this point in the hand, that info is completely irrelevant.

 

[BlueNowhere]

question wasnt "what should i do preflop"

although the comment is probably accurate that I should have folded pre , at this point in the hand, that info is completely irrelevant.

The fact that the question wasn't "what should I do pre?" is more worrying in itself It's irrelevant what you do post-flop if you want to do this pre.

The info isn't irrelevant because you shouldn't be in this spot otf.

 

[JOEBOB69]

The fact that the question wasn't "what should I do pre?" is more worrying in itself It's irrelevant what you do post-flop if you want to do this pre.

The info isn't irrelevant because you shouldn't be in this spot otf.

agreed.Why make poker harder than it should be.Your hand sucks.Your position sucks etc.
Make the plan and simple move of folding and void the need for the HA all together.
As played, shove your hand looks like a over pair.There are so many worse draw/combo draw hands villain can have here.
Edit: I hate mtt's i think even if he as a combo draw he is the fav.Not sure with icm and all
BLAH fold pre

 

[KoRnholio]

Wise man once said "2 pair is like the girl you meet at closing time. Play it fast, but don't get married to her".

Action looks like someone wants to get hitched.

 

[Poker Orifice]

question wasnt "what should i do preflop"
Maybe it should've been (cuz it'd be interesting to hear the reasoning behind the raise here in early levels of a 'SNG' in eMP)
although the comment is probably accurate that I should have folded pre , .

I'd suggest a different adjective here than 'probably'... or maybe just leave that word out of the sentence.

Wise man once said "2 pair is like the girl you meet at closing time. Play it fast, but don't get married to her".

Action looks like someone wants to get hitched.

ha ha ha.. loved this ^

 

[WiZZiM]

So we raise with 97s preflop, then once we hit two pair we're thinking about folding?

If you don't know what to do here, then you definitely should not be raising this pre.

 

[baudib1]

Given that he has shown he can get it in with "only" TPGK I'm not folding. He's going to have enough draws here as well as 87, TT, to stack this.

 

[1luckysob]

So we raise with 97s preflop, then once we hit two pair we're thinking about folding?

If you don't know what to do here, then you definitely should not be raising this pre.

I think given that we are playing 97s our post flop play should be much tighter here to avoid losing big with marginal hands, the more hands you play that are less then premium the more willing you should be to fold in tough spots... i really have to be comfortable with a flop to re-shove over a 3bet. with this hand i could not resist but to shove and he turned over J10 so i think folding in this situation is not out of the question on a board like this. Over the long run 97s is a terrible hand unless you keep out of situations like this, I disagree this shouldnt ever be played pre flop (def sparingly) but I dont think just because we have 2 pair, with 2 flush cards and a straight on the board that we should not consider folding

 

[1luckysob]

Given that he has shown he can get it in with "only" TPGK I'm not folding. He's going to have enough draws here as well as 87, TT, to stack this.

this is exactly why i didnt fold...

 

[WiZZiM]

....

If we're playing a $16 game then you may have a point, this is a $2.20 game dude, this is a non decision on the flop every single time.

...Heh, i should probably read the hand through properly. I thought he had a 1500 stack, so yeah this is a bit closer than i thought. It's still a shove though.

I actually wouldn't have had so much of a problem with raising here if we were shorter stacked as gaining chips has a lot more value. But here we have doubled up, at this stage losing chips is a hell of a lot worse than winning a few more. Just kick back and wait for a few levels and then start pushing, or wait until you have position, rather than trying to buy it preflop, in a game where a lot of players will call in the positions behind you.

 

[ManicLombax]

Raising 97s here isn't necessarily terrible in my opinion, assuming you're not planning on stacking off with top pair (which I don't think you are). I'd rather do it in later position in general, but depends on how the table is playing. If it's passive, or you think you can take down a lot of flops with a c-bet, I think it's fine.

As for this hand, I don't think I can fold here. odds of him hitting a set are somewhat reduced because you have two blockers. Could certainly have hit gin with JT, but I think there's enough stuff you're ahead of here that I'm not folding.

 

[MasterOfDisaster]

Tough spot, were you crushed?

 

[1luckysob]

Tough spot, were you crushed?

yea he flopped the straight

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