$2.20 NL HE MTT: Satellite to $22

[mariussica88]

Game

Hold'em

Game Format

No Limit

Table Format

MTT

Buy-in

2.20

Currency

$

This is a turbo satellite with first 75 places get a ticket to the $22 Winter PKO. At this point there are around 129 players left and there still is a lot to play.

BTN stats after 31 hands: VPIP 29 PFR 24 and 3-bet 11

1. Do you guys open here?
2. Call or fold after the shove from BTN?

pokerstars, $1.96 + $0.24 - Hold'em No Limit - 600/1,200 (150 ante) - 8 players


UTG: 4,286 (4 bb)
UTG+1: 32,100 (27 bb)
MP: 41,967 (35 bb)
MP+1: 27,747 (23 bb)
CO (Hero): 22,976 (19 bb)
BU: 11,033 (9 bb)
SB: 8,235 (7 bb)
BB: 19,024 (16 bb)

Pre-Flop: (3,000) Hero is CO with T♥ Q♥
4 players fold, Hero raises to 2,520, BTN 3-bets to 10,883 (all-in), 2 players fold, Hero calls ?

 

[fundiver199]

I think, open folding QTs on CO is to tight, so I am either min-raising or open jamming. Which play, I prefer, largely defend on BB, because he is the largest stack and also the player most likely to just call a min-raise. If BB is passive, then min-raising and C-betting most flops is the best line. However if he is an aggressive player, I prefer to open jam and take the play away from him.

If I min-raise, its a clear fold, if BB rejam and a clear call, if SB rejam due to pot odds. BTN is the player, it sucks most to get rejammed by, because the decision is less clear. But I lean towards a fold here. If you call and lose, you are left with just 10BB and a significantly lower chance of winning a ticket. I also think, BTNs range is somewhat snug, since he likely dont expect to much fold equity, and he still have to worry about two guys behind him.

 

[eetenor]

Satty play changes drastically away from GTO or even ICM ranges when we get within striking distance of a seat-if we have locked up a seat for instance we fold AA even with 129 left vs larger stack sizes- not open fold of course-the math behind satties is if i am 90% to get a seat say we are top 5 now then I never have the right equity to play for stacks vs another player even with AA-In this spot it is possible you may have 60% equity to get a seat
So again we want to know exactly how close you are to the 75 number to know if we just open fold this hand as we really only need 1 chip to win a seat. Less than half the field has to bust for us to get a seat and on our table our stack size puts us in the get a seat half of the table. The issue with opening here is the players behind us all have shove stacks so we really do not want to play this spot even with a hand as Raw Equity good as this. The shorter stacks have to build at this stage so they should be shoving GTO not satty ranges- our problem is we may not need to build our stack to finish top 75 again depending on where we are out of 129- therefore we may not want to call any shove -I would prefer to open this hand vs mid stacks who are stack protecting than shorties who want to shove

 

[300HPGOD]

I don't get this one at all. Depends on where out of the 129 we are relative to the top 75 but even though this is a good looking hand I would not be opening this hand with two of the three remaining players behind me having jam stacks. We can't call a jam after a raise and expect to be ahead so yes maybe pot odds would make it close (didnt do the math) but do we even want to get into close situations in a satty especially if we are in the top 75 currently and have a stack that is not on life support? If all the players behind me are tight and I know that then this is a good spot to open raise to try to get the blinds but if that were the case then open raising 53 off here would be fine too to get the blinds considering the tightness of those behind. Without anyone being tight (29/24/11 is not tight at all lol) or knowing they are tight and with the jam stacks behind I am squeaky tight in our spot with our stack. I dont think I would raise anything here that I would not be prepared to get in with unless, again, I knew there were folders behind me and there was a very good chance I would scoop the blinds.

Eetenor's point above about its better to open this against mid stacks that dont want to eff up their chances at a ticket is a good one since the smaller stacks dont have to worry about top 75 right now since they are most likely outside of that currently.

 

[mariussica88]

So at this point in the tournament this was the hand 91, from 134 and after this hand we played for 40 min until we reached the tickets places and the end of the tournament. I don't remember exactly what position I was when we played this hand but probably I was just a little under the average stack size, so based on that I believe that I was in those 75 places.

Here is the full hand history:

PokerStars, $1.96 + $0.24 - Hold'em No Limit - 600/1,200 (150 ante) - 8 players
Replay this hand on CardsChat

UTG: 4,286 (4 bb)
UTG+1: 32,100 (27 bb)
MP: 41,967 (35 bb)
MP+1: 27,747 (23 bb)
CO (Hero): 22,976 (19 bb)
BU: 11,033 (9 bb)
SB: 8,235 (7 bb)
BB: 19,024 (16 bb)

Pre-Flop: (3,000) Hero is CO with T♥ Q♥
4 players fold, Hero raises to 2,520, BTN 3-bets to 10,883 (all-in), 2 players fold, Hero calls 8,363

Flop: (24,766) 5♠ 2♥ J♠ (2 players, 1 all-in)

Turn: (24,766) 3♣ (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: (24,766) T♣ (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: 24,766

Spoiler

Showdown:
BU shows Q♣ A♥ (high card, Ace)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 69%, Flop: 81%, Turn: 93%, River: 0%)

CO (Hero) shows T♥ Q♥ (a pair of Tens)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 31%, Flop: 19%, Turn: 7%, River: 100%)

CO (Hero) wins 24,766

Spoiler

This time I was lucky to hit a 10 on the river

...but what I was most interested was that is this a spot to open Q10 since the dynamic of the table was pretty much everyone waited for a strong hand to play. ( A10+ I haven't seen anyone in this point of the tournament playing something less then that )

 

[fundiver199]

Obviously you got lucky there to bink the suck-out against a hand, that had you dominated. But this is exactly the kind of hand, I would expect him to show up with most of the time, and why I prefer raise-folding over raise-calling.