PokerStars, $1.96 + $0.24 - Hold'em No Limit - 2,000/4,000 (600 ante) - 9 players
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UTG: 47,359 (12 bb)
UTG+1: 100,541 (25 bb)
MP: 288,114 (72 bb)
MP+1: 65,974 (16 bb)
LP: 12,832 (3 bb)
CO (Hero): 115,395 (29 bb)
BU: 231,900 (58 bb)
SB: 37,800 (9 bb)
BB: 85,186 (21 bb)

Pre-Flop: (11,400) Hero is CO with 3♠ 3♥
4 players fold, LP raises to 12,232 (all-in), Hero calls 12,232, BTN 3-bets to 231,300 (all-in), 2 players fold, CO (Hero) folds

Yo, yo!

what do you do in spots like that? We are after bubble, it's bounty tourney, so I wanted to call and earn a bounty from short stack. I don't want to stackoff with player who covers me - 33 almost always flip in spots like that.

Thanks in advance!

If the short stack has a big bounty, I like shoving the 33 here. Normally it would be too deep to make this play, but usually everyone will fold if you shove so you get heads-up against the bounty. When you're called it will most commonly be a flip.

So in a normal tourney if he has a small bounty then just fold, otherwise you can definitely consider shoving here. As played when you call and the button shoves, your fold is good.

I dont like calling in a situation like this, because you are basically hoping, all 3 players behind are very passive, and that none of them will use their larger stack to push you out of the pot. Either shove yourself to isolate the all-in player or simply fold and let someone else try to collect his bounty. But I would usually shove here. Only BTN have you covered, and he not going to call off for half his stack with any two cards.

I would say that facing the shove, you made the right call to fold, but you could consider not calling LP unless he has an extra fat bounty to win. I would call with higher pocket pairs, but not really with 3 3.

This would have to be a progressive bounty for me to think about doing anything other than folding here. Too much danger with 3 people still left to act behind and one of them has a short stack and will be looking to gamble as well (Thats good for bounties but not so much for our stack and the prize pool). Also if you get it in here you still are flipping at best outside of the rare 2x hand here and could easily be going against a bigger pair. Since I know I would be flipping at best and could be crushed toppled with 3 left to act behind me this is a fold to me. Worst thing you can do in this spot with the hands you have. Bigger pairs can call here if you want to take an increased variance route (to hopefully get raised and then you can jam over) but you obviously wouldnt want that with 33 here.

The 33 may be ahead but do you really want to flip (at best your flipping and at worst you are Way behind ) with the big stack for your stack / tournament life. I am calling the 3bb and hoping to see a favorable flop. Once the bigger stack jams I am getting away. Just not worth the risk imo. If it’s a progressive ko and the 3 bb has a lot to gain then there is a minute chance but it’s gotta have huge financial gain possibly. This is just one of those spots where I fold and move on to a better spot.

Yeah, you definitively do not want to face the flip (or worse) with your lower pair. Let it go. Wait for another apportunity to collect another bounty.

Yeah, I agree in the large part with guys. Only call with 33 here for seems as a weak move. There two players behind you than can push pre flop with something. If you want win this bounty you have to risky and play allin pre flop. Allin pre flop seems better for me that call pre flop. When I see push for about 3bb pre flop in bounty tournament and call this allin, for me it seems a little weak move. I don't prefer call pre flop with pocket 33, because in bounty tournament it is very possible that many players call this allin pre flop and usually we will have problem with pocket 33 on the flop in multi pot. GL

Originally Posted by MikeCarasone

The 33 may be ahead but do you really want to flip (at best your flipping and at worst you are Way behind ) with the big stack for your stack / tournament life.

No we dont particularly want that. But if we move all in, the big stack is going to fold the vast majority of the time. He cant profitably call with his J9s or his K8o, because he does not know, he is up against 33. So we have succesfully turned our hand into a bluff and pushed him out of a pot, where the bounty from the all-in player is essentially the same as a very large ante.

If its worth the risk depends on, just how large the chip value of that bounty is. Which OP has not given any information about. This is kind of important, because late in PKO tournaments the size of each players bounty will be very individual, and jamming ranges depends on this.

If for instance the value of that bounty is equivalent to 10BB, its probably worth it to risk 29BB against one single player not yet involved in the action to give ourselfes a chance to win that money. But if its only equivalent to 2BB, then maybe we just fold and let someone behind try to win that money. I dont like calling here with 33, because that gives the two small stacks behind a big incentive to jam, and I dont want to call a jam with 33.

Originally Posted by fundiver199

No we dont particularly want that. But if we move all in, the big stack is going to fold the vast majority of the time. He cant profitably call with his J9s or his K8o, because he does not know, he is up against 33. So we have succesfully turned our hand into a bluff and pushed him out of a pot, where the bounty from the all-in player is essentially the same as a very large ante.

If its worth the risk depends on, just how large the chip value of that bounty is. Which OP has not given any information about. This is kind of important, because late in PKO tournaments the size of each players bounty will be very individual, and jamming ranges depends on this.

If for instance the value of that bounty is equivalent to 10BB, its probably worth it to risk 29BB against one single player not yet involved in the action to give ourselfes a chance to win that money. But if its only equivalent to 2BB, then maybe we just fold and let someone behind try to win that money. I dont like calling here with 33, because that gives the two small stacks behind a big incentive to jam, and I dont want to call a jam with 33.

I agree with you 100%. Very good post.

I think that before getting involved in the hand you should decide if you are willing to finish all in with the strength of your hand, since being a bounty tournament people play much more aggressive and by calling only a flop hand will almost always fall for you low pair, as well as many Ax or Kx will go all in behind and you will not be able to call. That is why it is best to go all in if you consider that the bounty deserves it.

for me its an easy fold since one of the players had you covered and a small pair loses lots of equity against more than 1 shove..