180-seater hand: AQ numero deux

ChuckTs

ChuckTs

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Two hands after the other AQ hand where I ended up calling, we get the same hand but get raised into this time.
Villain is tight agressive aswell, but a little looser and more aggressive: 22/17/3.4

pokerstars GAME #8118636733: TOURNAMENT #41420961, $10+$1 HOLD'EM NO LIMIT - LEVEL XII (800/1600) - 2007/01/25 - 17:52:07 (ET)
Table '41420961 14' 9-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: Ace9715 (14629 in chips)
Seat 2: ChuckTs (48634 in chips)
Seat 3: awfularthur (31949 in chips)
Seat 4: BanjoNick (23939 in chips)
Seat 5: InDaNameOLuv (50961 in chips)
Seat 6: Doktor Gonzo (16958 in chips)
Seat 8: NemoStars22 (24141 in chips)
Seat 9: John4321 (58789 in chips)
Ace9715: posts the ante 75
ChuckTs: posts the ante 75
awfularthur: posts the ante 75
BanjoNick: posts the ante 75
InDaNameOLuv: posts the ante 75
Doktor Gonzo: posts the ante 75
NemoStars22: posts the ante 75
John4321: posts the ante 75
InDaNameOLuv: posts small blind 800
Doktor Gonzo: posts big blind 1600
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ChuckTs [Qs Ac]
NemoStars22: folds
John4321: folds
Ace9715: raises 12954 to 14554 and is all-in
ChuckTs:....

What's our calling range here?
 
Dorkus Malorkus

Dorkus Malorkus

HELLO INTERNET
AQ+, 99+

callcallcallcall (well shove over the top, naturally).
 
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Dingodaddy23

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I actually like a call here Dorkus. I THINK you can find a fold if someone in LP shoves over the top of both of you. He would be left with 34k in chips if he folds, and pot odds aside, there is no way you are NOT dominated with AQ if one of the big stacks behind you shoves over a push and a CALL which looks stronger than a push
 
zebranky

zebranky

Rock Star
call... probably

I'm thinking this is well within your calling range - probably not mine, though.
AQ is probably better than 50-50 to win this one, but I don't like it myself - I think I would sooner fold this one (you don't have many chips committed). As you said on the other thread, I want to be reasonable certain the odds are 70/30 in my favor to make this call. Even if you place this guy as somewhat loose, what hand do you put him on?
at this stage in a tourney, I figure there's no real idiots left. I'm going to give the guy the benefit of the doubt and give him AK or 99+, and fold most of these unless I've seen the Villian getting desparate.

I still find in online tourneys that the best tactic is always waiting for the other guy to make mistakes...
 
ChuckTs

ChuckTs

Legend
Well as it turns out I folded, as did everyone else so we won't ever know what he held...

I found it kind of odd after reviewing these two AQ hands; I thought I should have folded the first, and actually called this one. I did exactly the opposite in both.

I do think AQ is ahead of his range here, and I think the only reason I folded was because I had just won a monster pot with that AQ just two hands ago and didn't want to risk it on a measely AQ.
 
Dorkus Malorkus

Dorkus Malorkus

HELLO INTERNET
I actually like a call here Dorkus. I THINK you can find a fold if someone in LP shoves over the top of both of you. He would be left with 34k in chips if he folds, and pot odds aside, there is no way you are NOT dominated with AQ if one of the big stacks behind you shoves over a push and a CALL which looks stronger than a push

the only person you can fold to is seat 5 - pot odds dictate an easy call against any of the others. shoving might get him to fold a hand like TT or another AQ that he would shove over the top of our call with - do you really think a call 'looks stronger' here? in theory it probably should, but in practice i see people shoving with their very strong hands and calling with their strong-marginal hands here all the time.
 
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