Online tourney.8 handed.
Blinds are 200/400 with 50 ante.
I have 11331. Cover most of the table except button and BB.
I have and in UTG+1 I raise to 910.
Folds around to SB who shoves 545 (not really relevant)
BB with 18893 completes.


Flop is (pot is 2965)
BB checks
I bet 1200
BB raises to 3600.


Hero? Shove or call?
I'd appreciate if you would consider the same scenario if I were deeper- between 30 to 40 BB. Would it change your answer?

Flush draws, and sets are possible hands for our opponent. We would have expected a pre-flop 3-bet with AA or KK, though not always.But the opponent's most likely hand is a queen. He raises the flop to protect against overcards and flush draws.

We are probably ahead, so our goal should be to get all of the chips into the pot.

After the raise on the flop there are 23BB in your stack and 16BB in the pot.

If you call, it costs 6BB to call, so on the turn there would be 22BB in the pot and 17BB in your stack. An A, K, or club on the turn might scare your opponent out of the pot if you go all in on the turn, or if he has a hand like KQ or QJ he may decide he is probably beat.

If you shove it would cost the opponent 17BB to call, and there would be 39BB in the pot. So you would be offering pot odds of 17/(39+17) = 30%. Your opponent is likely to put you on overpairs, sets, AQ, or a flush draw.

I think the fact that your opponent may think you are drawing makes a shove here the most profitable play.

If you had about 40BB before the action then a shove would cost the opponent 29BB to call. With 51BB in the pot you would be offering 29/(51+29) = 36% pot odds, and calling would put the villain's tournament life at greater risk. However I still think this is the most profitable play.

It all depends on what type of a player is BB. If he is a good player then his check-raising range should be 86, 88, 66, 97 and some flush draws. He shouldn't raise with Qx, because you have AQ, AA, KK and QQ in your range. So, by default I'm calling here and reevaluating situation on the turn. But, there are a lot of bad players who raise with queen in villains shoes. Against that type of players, I can shove with aces here.

Originally Posted by liuouhgkres

It all depends on what type of a player is BB. If he is a good player then his check-raising range should be 86, 88, 66, 97 and some flush draws. He shouldn't raise with Qx, because you have AQ, AA, KK and QQ in your range. So, by default I'm calling here and reevaluating situation on the turn. But, there are a lot of bad players who raise with queen in villains shoes. Against that type of players, I can shove with aces here.

Good question- I don't have a sufficient number of hands on him, but from sharkscope I see he is a losing MTT player, weak results (under 60)

Call, then get it in on turns that arent clubs.

Id fold if i had the Ac in hand, but its very close then. (Could get it in vs lag opponents)

Flat if deeper stacked.

Given the SPR, I’m jamming. Calling puts us in a shitty spot on too many turn cards. A fish can x/r call Qx here and is unlikely to bluff at the frequency they can.

Originally Posted by trent32la

Flat if deeper stacked.

Given the SPR, I’m jamming. Calling puts us in a shitty spot on too many turn cards. A fish can x/r call Qx here and is unlikely to bluff at the frequency they can.

Would you change your answer if we were deeper, lets say 35BB?

your stack to pot ratio i do believe gonna be very hard to fold he has kq possible and many combo drws deeper stacked man this gonna be hard spot as he has 2 combos of set that very possible so deeper gonna come down to read and what is your playing style image on table